Hong Kong....Occupy Central Demonstrations....

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Blackstone

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Also contrary to your wishful fantasies, students were cleaning vandalism acts done by a few, on governmental buildings. They're even cleaning up the streets and recycling. You can wish for the worst but it will only happen inside your head. Your bias is so clear but I'll let you have it because the amusement factor for me is already high.

Humm... lets narrow down your accusations, shall we?

1) What wishful fantasies do you say I have re: Hong Kong protesters?
2) What is the worst you say I wish?
3) What clear and bad bias do you claim I have?
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
That's like the most pointless thing I've ever read. A huge amount of students are in high school. Do you expect to live on their own? And again because you're ignorant of the living conditions in HK, it's not a surprise people live with their families. Saves money. Plus, Asian parents tend to let their children succeed their wealth, so everything you've said is literally pretty stupid.

Bias can do poor things to one's intelligence.

Well kid, if you actually read the passage I responded to you might not be so brash. The original poster said the students probably had jobs. It's in that context you should read my retort.
 
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Things that could only happen in a Hong Kong protest

By Samanthi Dissanayake
BBC News
Tear gas, pepper spray, feelings of anger and betrayal, crowds forced to run from riot police... and yet the protests retain that uniquely Hong Kong character.

Reporters and Hong Kong residents have shared their most surreal and charming experiences on the streets.

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Doing your homework
Perhaps it isn't actually anarchic but it is definitely one of the biggest protests in Hong Kong for years. And yet students - some of whom were at the vanguard of this movement - find time to sit down and do their homework. Richard Frost for Bloomberg News tweeted this picture of children doing just that.

Children doing homework
Students doing their homework in Hong Kong's street protest
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Apologising for the barricade you put up
An entrance to the Causeway Bay MTR station was barricaded and emblazoned with signs shouting out for democracy. In the middle was a small cardboard sign - also written by the protesters: "Sorry for the inconvenience."

MTR station
Hong Kong resident Collier Nogues, who took the picture, said it is "characteristic of the feeling everywhere I went this afternoon. Generous, polite."

Hong Kong sees third day of massive civil resistance pro-democracy movement Occupy Central
Always apologise for putting up a barricade and blocking access
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Deploying ancient arts of self defence with an umbrella
The humblest and most domestic of props became a protest icon after it was transformed into a shield against pepper spray and tear gas. The picture of a sole protester wielding his umbrella against the tear gas went viral online on Monday.

And when it began to rain on Tuesday, it was put to its secondary use as protection in wet weather. Residents also tweeted that protesters were distributing raincoats in Mong Kok. Police say umbrellas were also used by some protesters to threaten officers during Sunday night's unrest.

Umbrella protester
How to deploy an umbrella in self defence
The BBC has explained how the humble umbrella became a HK protest symbol.

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Concern for how fragrant fellow protesters are
Hong-Kong-based journalist Tom Grundy tweeted this picture of a protester proffering free shirt-fresheners. At times the temperature has been sweltering and amid the crowds things are bound to get a little bit sweaty.

Protester with free shirt freshener
Shirt freshener anyone?
And while on the streets with the protesters, the BBC's Martin Yip witnessed volunteer armies spraying people with water to keep them cool and fresh.

Armies of water-sprayers cool things down in Causeway Bay
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Keeping off the well cut grass lawn when asked by a cardboard sign
A picture on the live page of the South China Morning Post showed a sea of protesters who it noted had parted for the grass courtyard where Hong Kong's cenotaph is located. Protesters still obeyed signs telling them to keep off the grass at the monument, putting the "civil" into civil disobedience.

"Despite the crowds around the war memorial in Central, not one person is standing or sitting on the grass. There's a new cardboard sign over the usual sign telling people not to go on the grass," the Hong Kong-based paper wrote.

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File picture of Hong Kong's war memorial outside the old legislative council building - protesters stayed off the grass
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Being the tidiest protesters on the block
The BBC's Saira Asher reports on how diligently the protesters cleared up after themselves. "The morning is being spent mostly removing rubbish left over from last night's huge crowd. Students are picking up cigarette butts and plastic bottles, others are distributing breakfast buns. That is why those on the street are being called 'the politest protesters' by some on social media."

Plastic bottle tops are seen separated for recycling by students
Recycling has also been organised by those on the streets. Many agree that the world hasn't seen organised and tidy protests quite like this before.

This is echoed by the South China Morning Post in its live page when it wrote of a bizarre incident in Causeway Bay where a man pelted protesters with rotten eggs, telling them to "go back to class and stop blocking the roads". Protesters reportedly responded by cleaning up the mess.

Litter collection and recycling has been organised by those on the streets
Most witnesses agree that despite the clashes on Sunday night and the sheer anger at China's decision to restrict who can run to be Hong Kong's leader, the mood on the streets is largely peaceful and generous. There have been incidents of commuters and angry local residents exhorting protesters to give up and leave - a reminder that not all of Hong Kong's residents agree with the demonstrations.

But for the moment it looks as if the Hong Kong protesters will keep on tidying up, creating lanes to enable smooth passage, doing their homework and of course making the demands they see as crucial to the future of Hong Kong.
 
Well kid, if you actually read the passage I responded to you might not be so brash. The original poster said the students probably had jobs. It's in that context you should read my retort.

Yea a lot have jobs but can still live at home, and again saying they live at home I don't see what you're exactly trying to say other than stating the obvious.
 

Blackstone

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Yea a lot have jobs but can still live at home, and again saying they live at home I don't see what you're exactly trying to say other than stating the obvious.

So, your standard response to people you accuse of stating the obvious is to insult them with phrases like "stupid," "ignorant," and "bias?"
 

shen

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You have been wishing for them to became chaotic and destructive, and then the government crackdown on them real bad. You've stated it before, and up there you've said it again.

I've tried telling you, with a benefit of a doubt you're not understand the situation, that the people there are being civic and orderly and cleaning up their acts, but it seems like you're still hoping they mess up real bad.

Why don't you be blunt and tell us what you wish will happen to HK right now and the exact scenario that you prefer.

In the Western press, you constant read headlines that refer the HK protest as Tiananmen 2.0. Almost as if they what to see a bloodbath. I've also read self proclaimed HK posters on Chinese language forums saying that they want to see PLA tanks rolling into HK. They may be a minority, but just beware that there are people that thrive in chaos.
 
So, your standard response to people you accuse of stating the obvious is to insult them with phrases like "stupid," "ignorant," and "bias?"

My standard response is call them out on what they are, except I never called you stupid. I said the things you've said are stupid because you're stating the obvious.
 

pla101prc

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They've threatened to widen the protests (whatever that means), or a labor strike (which is ridiculous, any meaningful strike will cause economic damage). The government building occupation is a non-starter, and will get them tear gassed again at the very least.

They could try to occupy a PLA base or break into a police armory, but that's not just insane, that's "going three times to the far side of the Moon with a spa treatment on Venus" insane.

Like I said, they should use this political momentum to build a political mobilization for the long haul, not double down.

nah attack and occupy the SAR building is a much better option, tried and tested in Taiwan, Ukraine, Libya etc.
 
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