H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

AndrewS said:

1. I don't think it even makes sense for the PLAAF to develop a transport which is even larger than the Y-20.
You'd be looking at something like a C-5 Galaxy. But what can it do that a Y-20 can't?

2. In terms of priorities, the H-20 should be far more important than a larger C-5 class transport aircraft

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taxiya said:

Even if he is right about "H-20 not unveiled within next 5 years", all his reasonings are wrong or irrelevant IMO. Xi'an isn't involved in 6th gen fighter or J-20. Y-20 program is in a different stage that has no competition in resources with H-20, they don't share much of people or facilities. An even larger transport is IMO outlandish because I don't see the purpose for PLAAF.

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Discussion continued in the China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft thread due to the risk of derailing this thread.

If the breakneck expansion of J-20 is signs of anticipating trouble in near future then H-20 program should be expedited. I consider H-20 to be a center piece in the pacific fight. An ISR/Strike platform that can reliably penetrate 2IC, also a conventional strike option to CONUS.

The war would be very different with H-20. I for one don't believe in any of the "war before 20XX" narratives, therefore I don't believe H-20 schedule needs to be anything but as soon as possible.

I think the PLAAF decision(if the rumours are true) to prioritize the 6th gen platform development at risk of delaying the H-20 to the same unveiling date to be sound for a within 2nd IC conflict.

The value of the H-20 only increases relative to the 6th gen programme if China does intend to strike Hawaii and CONUS but will never surpasses it in priority as air superiority is more important regardless of the theater.

Delaying H20 to prioritise on 6th gen makes zero sense since Xian is hardly going to be switching to fighting development, so 6th gen development will predominantly be done by CAC/SAC, so what does that have to do with Xian’s ability to work on the H20? It’s not like China is exactly short on change to not have budget for both projects.

Hitomi said:

I think the PLAAF decision(if the rumours are true) to prioritize the 6th gen platform development at risk of delaying the H-20 to the same unveiling date to be sound for a within 2nd IC conflict.

The value of the H-20 only increases relative to the 6th gen programme if China does intend to strike Hawaii and CONUS but will never surpasses it in priority as air superiority is more important regardless of the theater.

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Air superiority within 1IC is very much in China's favor already. What good is NGAD if China just blast every airfields in range? US recognize this fact and shifting their tactics to long range fire. Therefore China needs to further push the envelope out to extinguish that fantasy.

Strike abilities on CONUS is important to dissuade the US from strikes on mainland. Otherwise the US will open up on civilian targets if they feel like a sore loser.

As other poster point out it is not an either or situation with 6-gen and H-20, China can do both comfortably. I really wish Shenyang's JH-XX is in works too, a tactical stealth platform would come in very handy.

VESSEL said:

H-20 has something special.

• Aileron
• Split drag rudder
• V-tail
• Jet vane on the conformal nozzle

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Add one point.

• Belly-flap

VESSEL said:

Add one point.

• Belly-flap

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What's the use of belly-flaps on a VLO strategic bomber?

Interesting takes by Yankee on what might be China's 6th-gen fighter:






Sounds like he's reciting a poem, lol...

Roughly translated from Yankee's words:
"Flies rather fast and is stealthy"
"Takeoff weight at several tens of tons"
"(Max?) Range can reach/surpass 10000 lis (I think kilometers?)"(??!!)
"The weapons bay is very big and very deep"

Roughly translated from horobeyo's post:
"With dual heavy-duty engines (and) an enlarged structure, which will double the fuel (load), (hence) the range will exceed 6000 kilometers. If (the plane) uses WS-15s, you can even have no afterburner(??)."

Can someone with better understandings verify on the information? Or the link to the video itself?

Also, I highly doubt Yankee is talking about the H-20, since the H-20 has been widely expected to have 4 engines instead of just 2.

Or - Could he be actually talking about JH-XX instead? With what looks like a book with the cover of H-6K bomber in front of him, per se.