H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

tankphobia

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hmmm, interesting. Is that because too expensive to operate or reliability issues ?
They were used a bit in the US's various overseas adventures, but the b-2 basically suffered the same fate as f-22s in the sense that once USSR was gone there was nobody they would used them on, leading to a production run of 20 instead of 100+. The b-2 also has gen 1 stealth coating which I presume is very expensive to maintain. Now with China on the rise B-21 is needed to fill in that stealth bomber niche.

Anyhow this is getting off topic.
 

Deino

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How come this forum and r/LCD uncritically accepts his post that suggest this is indeed a model presented at Changchun air show as gospel? No one even ask for sources to run a background check?

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This is the only photo I found on the Internet that was like the one he posted.
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This photo has been up on weibo for almost a day, which leads me to believe that this model doesn't contain any sensitive info (i.e., not in good correspondence with the actual H-20 project)


Your gut-feeling was right, there was indeed NO model on show and this all is just a fan-made CG:


 

Blitzo

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Your gut-feeling was right, there was indeed NO model on show and this all is just a fan-made CG:



The fan made video link was already posted earlier in the thread by nx4eu.

I think we should all benefit from practicing caution before posting things on places outside of this forum like twitter and Reddit, especially if our instincts and common sense tell us it isn't real.

At a certain stage, posting fan made rubbish ends up giving them more credibility than they deserve even if is done with the intent of questioning/challenging it.

Instead, imo it is better to just pretend they don't exist, or at least to give it 12-24 hours for the dust to settle if something seems odd just to get additional context.


To others reading this, and you know who you are -- the credibility of competent PLA watching is at risk of being diluted by excessive cross posting of dodgy, fan made and questionable content to other places like twitter and Reddit, in a manner that isn't done with sufficient caution.
Whether it's done due to user enthusiasm or due to a desire to drive "engagement," if it isn't done properly to clearly delineate if something should be taken seriously or not, then it risks damaging PLA watching through "crying wolf".



Oh it's definitely not a model from the Changchun airshow it's a crappy fan animation from
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But it's interesting speculating about this design as it's appeared here and there from weird places. No one knows what the H-20 looks like, and most certainly won't know what it will look like until it's officially revealed. All we know it's some sort of flying wing design.
 
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hellodarknez

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Man that's annoying.. I saw that in douyin and they said it's from Changchun airshow. I will delete my original post. Sorry guys..

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I'm not allowed to delete it anymore..
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Well, in case this hasn't been posted before.

Satellite photos in July show that Zhangshu Air Force Base in Yichun, Jiangxi is already stationing warplanes. According to speculations/guesstimates, those warplanes should be H-6s (and in the future, H-20s).

Related, from February:

According to @lyman2003 on Weibo:
The (H-20's) size is (expected to be) similar to the B-2, as (one dozen of) the parking stand width (in Zhangshu AFB) is 68 meters. For comparison: The Y-20's parking stand is 60 meters wide, the H-6's parking stand is 45 meters wide, and the B-2's wing span is 52 meters.
The runway setting status and clearance area of the new airbase are very similar to those of B-2 (at Whiteman AFB in Missouri, I suppose?).
It will take about 5 years (for the H-20s) to move in. The AFB in Qionglai, Sichuan had already expanded the Y-20's parking spaces in May 2012. At that time, the Y-20 had not made its first flight. Those spaces were LEFT vacant for five years before the Y-20 moved in.
The first flight (of the H-20) is not far away...

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