Gunman murders 32 at VA Tech
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NBC received material from the killer. Well it must be planed days before the shooting.
It's exactly the same way as Lu Gang, the Chinese student 16 years ago who sent 4 copies of letter to the news media before his shooting incident. And his letter is still banned from publishing, I wonder why?
It's exactly the same way as Lu Gang, the Chinese student 16 years ago who sent 4 copies of letter to the news media before his shooting incident. And his letter is still banned from publishing, I wonder why?
Neutral Zone
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Virginia gunman 'had mental care'
The student who shot dead at least 30 people at Virginia Tech University was admitted to a mental health unit in late 2005, police have revealed.
Cho Seung-hui was sent for evaluation after two female students made complaints against him, they said.
Cho had also sent "photographs, video and writings" to NBC News, which have been turned over to the FBI for examination, police said.
MSNBC said the material was sent between the first and second shootings.
A total of 32 people died in shootings at two locations on the Virginia Tech campus on Monday.
"This may be a very new, critical component of this investigation," said Steve Flaherty, superintendent of Virginia State Police.
"We're in the process right now of attempting to analyze and evaluate its worth," he said at a news conference.
The complaints about Cho were made in November and December 2005, around the time Cho's English teachers raised concerns over his writing and general behaviour.
Authorities have not yet linked the 23-year old to any of those he killed.
Two people were killed at the West Ambler Johnston Hall, a university dormitory, before Cho killed 30 others, plus himself, at the Norris Hall complex across campus some two hours later.
Police say the same gun was used at both locations but have not definitely proved that Cho was at West Ambler Johnstone at the time of the shootings there.
Twin complaints
In the aftermath of the shootings, teachers and fellow students have spoken of Cho's moods, violent writings and unpredictable behaviour.
One of his roommates, Karan Grewal, told the BBC that Cho rarely spoke to those with whom he shared a three-room apartment.
"I figured he was pretty lonely, but not that he was angry in any way or he was capable of what he did."
Two separate complaints about Cho's behaviour were lodged in late 2005, university police chief Wendell Flinchum told a news conference.
But he said the two women who made the complaints were not among Cho's shooting victims.
However, Mr Flinchum did reveal that Cho was well known both to campus authorities and local law enforcement agencies.
"I'm not saying they were threats, I'm saying they were annoying. That's the way the victims characterised them, as annoying messages," he added.
In the first instance, Cho reportedly telephoned a female student and made direct contact with her.
Police spoke to Cho after she lodged a complaint, they said.
In a similar incident a month later, in December 2005, Cho reportedly made contact with another female student through instant messaging, leading to her complaint.
He was referred to a mental health unit outside the Virginia Tech campus on 13 December for evaluation amid concerns he was feeling suicidal, police said.
Private medical records from the mental health facility remain confidential, but Cho was referred back to university authorities for counselling after his assessment and had no further contact with campus police.
Around the same time, at least two of Cho's English teachers voiced their concerns over his behaviour and the tone of his work.
Cho's writing was moody and often involved themes of violence and death that alarmed Lucinda Roy, who was at that time head of the English department at Virginia Tech.
She removed Cho from regular classes and tutored him one-on-one after a complaint from another teacher.
"He was quite a gifted student in some ways, but he seemed to be very lonely and depressed," she said.
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Apparently when this scumbag bought the guns all he had to do was tick a box on a form saying that he had no history of mental illness. The gun store owner had no way of knowing his past history. Who would tick yes? I mentioned earlier in the thread that my brother lives in this part of Virginia, many of his friends are shooters, I met some of them last year when I was over for his wedding and we did some "plinking" as Popeye calls it. They were all very mature and responsible people, but surely there must be checks to ensure that unstable people like Cho are kept as far away from guns as possible?
The student who shot dead at least 30 people at Virginia Tech University was admitted to a mental health unit in late 2005, police have revealed.
Cho Seung-hui was sent for evaluation after two female students made complaints against him, they said.
Cho had also sent "photographs, video and writings" to NBC News, which have been turned over to the FBI for examination, police said.
MSNBC said the material was sent between the first and second shootings.
A total of 32 people died in shootings at two locations on the Virginia Tech campus on Monday.
"This may be a very new, critical component of this investigation," said Steve Flaherty, superintendent of Virginia State Police.
"We're in the process right now of attempting to analyze and evaluate its worth," he said at a news conference.
The complaints about Cho were made in November and December 2005, around the time Cho's English teachers raised concerns over his writing and general behaviour.
Authorities have not yet linked the 23-year old to any of those he killed.
Two people were killed at the West Ambler Johnston Hall, a university dormitory, before Cho killed 30 others, plus himself, at the Norris Hall complex across campus some two hours later.
Police say the same gun was used at both locations but have not definitely proved that Cho was at West Ambler Johnstone at the time of the shootings there.
Twin complaints
In the aftermath of the shootings, teachers and fellow students have spoken of Cho's moods, violent writings and unpredictable behaviour.
One of his roommates, Karan Grewal, told the BBC that Cho rarely spoke to those with whom he shared a three-room apartment.
"I figured he was pretty lonely, but not that he was angry in any way or he was capable of what he did."
Two separate complaints about Cho's behaviour were lodged in late 2005, university police chief Wendell Flinchum told a news conference.
But he said the two women who made the complaints were not among Cho's shooting victims.
However, Mr Flinchum did reveal that Cho was well known both to campus authorities and local law enforcement agencies.
"I'm not saying they were threats, I'm saying they were annoying. That's the way the victims characterised them, as annoying messages," he added.
In the first instance, Cho reportedly telephoned a female student and made direct contact with her.
Police spoke to Cho after she lodged a complaint, they said.
In a similar incident a month later, in December 2005, Cho reportedly made contact with another female student through instant messaging, leading to her complaint.
He was referred to a mental health unit outside the Virginia Tech campus on 13 December for evaluation amid concerns he was feeling suicidal, police said.
Private medical records from the mental health facility remain confidential, but Cho was referred back to university authorities for counselling after his assessment and had no further contact with campus police.
Around the same time, at least two of Cho's English teachers voiced their concerns over his behaviour and the tone of his work.
Cho's writing was moody and often involved themes of violence and death that alarmed Lucinda Roy, who was at that time head of the English department at Virginia Tech.
She removed Cho from regular classes and tutored him one-on-one after a complaint from another teacher.
"He was quite a gifted student in some ways, but he seemed to be very lonely and depressed," she said.
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Apparently when this scumbag bought the guns all he had to do was tick a box on a form saying that he had no history of mental illness. The gun store owner had no way of knowing his past history. Who would tick yes? I mentioned earlier in the thread that my brother lives in this part of Virginia, many of his friends are shooters, I met some of them last year when I was over for his wedding and we did some "plinking" as Popeye calls it. They were all very mature and responsible people, but surely there must be checks to ensure that unstable people like Cho are kept as far away from guns as possible?
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Whenever a horrfic event like this occurs the anti-gun lobbist come out in droves. Led by the likes of Rosie O'Donnell. The vast majority of gun owners in the US are very responsible persons...
Perhaps stricter gun ownership screening in VA would have everted this tradgey. But the US being a open society what would have prevented him from purchasing weapons in another stae? Nothing...
Neutral Zone
Junior Member
Popeye, my experiences last year changed all the stereotypes I had about US gun ownership. Previously I had thought that anyone who owned a gun was some sort of right wing Rambo nut. I now realise that the vast majority of them are sane and responsible people and as a general principle I do not believe that responsible people should be punished for actions of those who do not respect the responsibility that goes with their rights. We all have the right to drive a car, some people drive irresponsibly and kill innocent people. But I don't hear anyone saying that all cars should be banned.
alwaysfresh
New Member
Yeah he was South Korean born, but moved to the USA when he was 8, so is it fare to say that he is an South Korean? This is an American shooting Americans, just like the Columbine High School massacre. I do not think it is fare to say he was South Korean, because Americans are going to now be blaming Chinese and South Koreans for causes all the violence in America, eventhough he lived most of his life in the US.
Why are these so many pictures of his face on the news? I mean this is going to leave a deep impression that Asians=Chinese are crazy/violent to all Americans who generalize easily. I was just thinking after reading that post about Asians being crazy killers: don't you remember "Columbine High School massacre", and I can tell you I do not know what those students who killed everyone looked like, but this asians face is going to be know by all. To all Americans who generalize easily they are going to just see an Asian(aka Chinese). I hate US media.
I want to know about the comment on the website above that states shootings happen everyday on campus. Also more information on the bomb threat one week early.
Why are these so many pictures of his face on the news? I mean this is going to leave a deep impression that Asians=Chinese are crazy/violent to all Americans who generalize easily. I was just thinking after reading that post about Asians being crazy killers: don't you remember "Columbine High School massacre", and I can tell you I do not know what those students who killed everyone looked like, but this asians face is going to be know by all. To all Americans who generalize easily they are going to just see an Asian(aka Chinese). I hate US media.
I want to know about the comment on the website above that states shootings happen everyday on campus. Also more information on the bomb threat one week early.
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Also I don't believe for a sec that he is mental illness. A perfect normal people can do nasty evil things as well, esp when you're young and at the time losing your control.
On the road of second day of the shooting, I tuned into a radio station that one expert was explaining these thing and I totally agree. Most horrible things are done by pretty normal folks, no much different than people we run into on daily basis, and most terrible thing may come out from victims of bullying, at the time when they strike back.
On the road of second day of the shooting, I tuned into a radio station that one expert was explaining these thing and I totally agree. Most horrible things are done by pretty normal folks, no much different than people we run into on daily basis, and most terrible thing may come out from victims of bullying, at the time when they strike back.
alwaysfresh
New Member
Fishhead replying after my post like that "Also I don't believe" makes me look stupid and you obvious with that reply.
Fishhead who are you agreeing with? NOT ME . I did NOT say that.
Fishhead properly quote which ever person your agreeing with who said that the killer was not "mental illness", I think you mean mentally ill.
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