Gunman murders 32 at VA Tech

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Whenever a horrfic event like this occurs the anti-gun lobbist come out in droves. Led by the likes of Rosie O'Donnell. The vast majority of gun owners in the US are very responsible persons...

Perhaps stricter gun ownership screening in VA would have everted this tradgey. But the US being a open society what would have prevented him from purchasing weapons in another stae? Nothing...

I watched Rosie O'Donnell on the View to see her reaction. She basically said she has given-up on believing there will be any gun control legislation. So she has not taken up this cause because she has already given-up on the issue.
 

IDonT

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Whenever a horrfic event like this occurs the anti-gun lobbist come out in droves. Led by the likes of Rosie O'Donnell. The vast majority of gun owners in the US are very responsible persons...

Perhaps stricter gun ownership screening in VA would have everted this tradgey. But the US being a open society what would have prevented him from purchasing weapons in another stae? Nothing...

How much are you willing to bet that the NRA will come out with...."if the College students were allowed to carry guns in the class room, they would have defended themselves and stop the assailant"...defence strategy.
 

adeptitus

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IMO this incident isn't about gun control, racism, etc. The kid had obvious mental issues and gave plenty of warnings through his prior actions. However, by law there is very little you could do to detain someone who's nuts beyond the typical 72 hour observation period. By law most city's department of mental health cannot detain an adult beyond 72 hours without showing that the person is an immediate threat to himself or others.

I've known a girl from Texas who threatened her ex BF in San Diego with a knife. She was detained and later released after the ex BF refused to file charges. A year later, she broke into another ex BF's house in Los Angeles and threatened to kill him then herself with a knife. Again she was detained and sent to City of Los Angeles Department of Mental Health, where she was held for 72 hour observation and released. Again the ex BF refused to file charges and the police did nothing.

Jeff Head had mentioned the right to bear arms, but I think that's an "external" right where the government can only take away your guns. How about your rights in mental health (internal) issues? I've known several people who REALLY should receive treatment, and I mean they are NUTS. But do you want the government to have the power to detain you indefinitely and forced to accept various treatments that may include everything from pills to electrical shocks, just because someone reported you as being crazy, and a psychologist agrees with them? Should your school and employer have access to your confidential medical files?
 
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bd popeye

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I watched Rosie O'Donnell on the View to see her reaction. She basically said she has given-up on believing there will be any gun control legislation. So she has not taken up this cause because she has already given-up on the issue.

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How much are you willing to bet that the NRA will come out with...."if the College students were allowed to carry guns in the class room, they would have defended themselves and stop the assailant"...defence strategy.

Rosie "O'Fat" is just throwing more logs on the fire to get the liberal anti-gun side in a row. She is a well know voice in the liberal comunity.

That show "the View" sucks. A bunch of man haters. When I see it on the TV I feel like throwing tomatoes at the screen. I never watch it...

I saw one of the female "talking heads" on Tv wondering why "someone" did not stop the gunman. Huh?? He had two guns and was shooting everything in sight. The victums had zero guns. I would have barracided myself in a room. Played dead. Stacked up some furniture and when he came in the room I would have been on top of the furniture and clobbered the guy...

Gun Control..You cannot control crazy people...

I've known a girl from Texas who threatened her ex BF in San Diego with a knife. She was detained and later released after the ex BF refused to file charges.

My ex-wife threatend to kill me and herself. And was placed in the psyc ward for three days. Then they let her go. Trust me she's nuts. That's why I live in Iowa and she is still in San Diego.
 

Gollevainen

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well as the discussion seems to dangerously enter into Political rant over US gun laws, along with the fact that this issue clearly raises strong emotions, expecially in our US memebers; lets just take deep breath and consider wheter these sort of issues fits in the fun and leisure section of Chinese military forum

Gollevainen, Super Moderator
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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I agree with Golly. I apoligize for my little rant against liberals.

Let's continue with an intelligent discussion.
 

crazyinsane105

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Why are these so many pictures of his face on the news? I mean this is going to leave a deep impression that Asians=Chinese are crazy/violent to all Americans who generalize easily. I was just thinking after reading that post about Asians being crazy killers: don't you remember "Columbine High School massacre", and I can tell you I do not know what those students who killed everyone looked like, but this asians face is going to be know by all. To all Americans who generalize easily they are going to just see an Asian(aka Chinese). I hate US media.

Hey, welcome to how Muslims in the USA feel today. :nana: Seriously though, yeah this is going to have a lasting impact just like Sept. 11 did on us. The media should be much more fare.
 
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fishhead

Banned Idiot
I really don't care the killer is a Chinese or not, so what? Even he is not still somebody may claim he is as the past experience shows. It doesn't bother me at all.

Also I won't talk with Americans about gun controls. It's like talking with someone about their baby, kind of going nowhere if talking about born right thought by the people.
 

bd popeye

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More fair? :confused: I'm not arguing with you . Remember Muhammad and Malvo who gunned down 10 people in the Metro DC area in late 2005? Their faces were plasterd all over the media for weeks & months. Last I checked they were black. No backlash against Blacks as being crazy pyso killers. How about Jeffery Dohmer?? Who not only murdrered his victims but took a few bites out of them? His grill certianly was all over the media. No backlash there against young white men. And what about Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? The Colombine killers. Their faces were in the media for years....Still are from time to time.

Faces are shown ,in my opinion , because the media wants to show the face of a killer. That's my opinion.
 
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