Gunman murders 32 at VA Tech

Sorry, I doucmented my view and fact disclosed proved it's quite reasonable. I don't want to be involved in the personal experience and it's only the personal meaning.

I would say you can choose not to face the reality and just throw some curses to the killer and that's fine to me. But in that way I am afraid the worst hasn't come yet.

I know as late as 1990s the blacks in LA still had a big riot, do some killing and robbing. But I will never call them "mentally ill" since even their action is not justified due to fact that's way overaction to Kim's case, I understand it. I just want to know the reason but not to label somebody as bad or something like that.

I am almost there.

I understand some of Mr. Cho's anger. Due to my father's stupidity in manging our family finances, I came from a relatively poor background and immigrated to an alien land at a young age. In school you get picked on, and when you first start dating in high school or college, you find yourself surrounded by "privileged" children with more money than you, girls who'd date you only until they find (by their opinion/standards) someone better, and "best friends" who'd back stab you to steal/sleep with your girlfriend, then excuse themselves by saying "well, this has nothing to do with friendship". Yup, been there.

The problem was Cho, was that he thought life should be "fair" by his standards. He was angry at people who (he thought) were snobbish, stuck-up, self-centered, with ridiculously high expectations and sense of entitlement. But he never turned around to look in a mirror and realize that he himself was self-centered with unrealistic expectations and sence of entitlement. He probably thought, "women should treat me like <insert>" and "my peers should treat me like <insert>".

Well, sorry, but life doesn't work like that, and we don't live/exist for Mr. Cho's benefit. So he becomes upset and angry at everyone around him, and finally decides to shoot everyone because they don't conform to his standards. He couldn't bring himself to compromise and adopt to mainstream society, because he's self-centered to think that he's righteous and we're all in the wrong and doing him harm.

He didn't have any friends who could've taught him how to handle life in a society where you could do everything right, and still have the rug pulled out from under you. Nobody taught him how to handle rejection, keeping an eye open on back of your head, and the golden rule "Doveryay, no proveryay" (Trust, but verify) when dealing with people. About half of the people who are mentally ill show diagnosable signs by age 14. Although most never receive professional treatment, they eventually learn and adopt. Sadly, Mr. Cho never gave himself the opportunity, and many people had to die.

Talking on the subject of backlash, when you see anyone "Asian" commit "high-profile" crimes in the US, it's more looked upon as a foreigner doing it therefore more offensive in the minds of Americans.

In Sacramento more than a decade ago a gang of young Vietnamese held customers hostage at a Good Guys store. I think they killed around five people. There was a backlash after that where several attacks on Asians took place.

The first schoolyard shooting happened in Stockton, CA targeting elementary school children by a man who blamed Asians because he couldn't find a job.

When Rambo II was released in theaters, after watching the movie, a gang of youths went on a spree of attacks on Asians on the street. Back in the early age of cinema, there was a movie called Broken Blossum that was about an Asian man called the Mongoloid, played by an actor dressed up to look Asian, who seduced a American woman away from her husband. The husband was so distraught that he committed suicide over it. After a screening, an audience rampaged into a mob out of the theatre, marched into LA's Chinatown and burned it down. No figures were ever recorded on how many people were killed because they didn't bother back then but it was estimated a couple dozen at least. Why do I bring up that old story up? Because I was reminded of it when I saw people trying to organize a boycott of China because the Chinese tortured Jack Bauer.

Then there's a whole list of attacks and murders just because of the crime that Japan had a strong economy back in the 80s. One guy named Vincent Chin was murdered during his bachelor party having his head cracked open with a baseball bat by two Detroit autoworkers because they thought he was Japanese. They ended up with a punishment that was less than if you killed a deer out of hunting season.

Backlashes do happen and for some of the most simplist of reasons.

As for my personal experience, I had a terrible time when I was young at the time when China was pretty communism. I am the person just saying whatever I want when China was at the time every body has to be in the official line.

I was isolated in the class since I refused to back down to talk nice to the student advisors and teacher in that disgusting tones. I stayed at home when the whole class went to their politcical activities. What a hell time, I understand.

From some of the Asian American web forum I frequently pop in and out have been pretty jammed up with the discussion of backlash. Some Korean national actually admitted that they tell people they were Chinese or Japanese just to feel safe and never go out alone. What a shame. I can understand it well myself since I got picked on a lot back in the 70's of being Asian and in a 90% white HS.

That guy is mental and acted just like a neighbour's daughter l that I use to know long time ago. Quiet and always look down, never looks you in the eye ever. She was finally committed to a mental facility by her parents and actually got better after like 2 years time. After that she can hold a short conversion and can look you in the eye. I was so glad she came out of the shell.

If his parents get some help earlier, he might be still be living a peaceful life under care, supervision and medication. Dam* so many nice people died because he falled through the crack of the system.

Not to go too much offtopic, I'm curious as to what Lu wrote. Can you summarize? I was in town when that incident happened, and met one of the survivors too.

fishhead said:

As for my personal experience, I had a terrible time when I was young at the time when China was pretty communism. I am the person just saying whatever I want when China was at the time every body has to be in the official line.

I was isolated in the class since I refused to back down to talk nice to the student advisors and teacher in that disgusting tones. I stayed at home when the whole class went to their politcical activities. What a hell time, I understand.

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I grew up in Taiwan during martial law period. We had to attend "political education" events even in elementary school. The government's propaganda folks would bring in these big paintings of evil looking communists feeding saintly-looking elders some pills, and the caption would read "evil communists feed poison to elderly to kill them". They'd also have displays of ragged cotton shirts with caption "what poor oppressed mainlanders wear".

When I moved to the US, I recall opening the newspaper and saw photos from some fashion show in Shanghai. LoL.

Mashan said:

From some of the Asian American web forum I frequently pop in and out have been pretty jammed up with the discussion of backlash. Some Korean national actually admitted that they tell people they were Chinese or Japanese just to feel safe and never go out alone. What a shame. I can understand it well myself since I got picked on a lot back in the 70's of being Asian and in a 90% white HS.

That guy is mental and acted just like a neighbour's daughter l that I use to know long time ago. Quiet and always look down, never looks you in the eye ever. She was finally committed to a mental facility by her parents and actually got better after like 2 years time. After that she can hold a short conversion and can look you in the eye. I was so glad she came out of the shell.

If his parents get some help earlier, he might be still be living a peaceful life under care, supervision and medication. Dam* so many nice people died because he falled through the crack of the system.

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Mr. Cho had 2 strikes against him. Not only he was picked on in high school because of his race, but he was also autistic(a form of mental illness). Another words, his autism made him act peculiar just like you described about your neighbor's daughter. And at the same time his experiences with racial discrimination at his high school just made things worse.

All this could have been avoided if he was treated and keep away from high stress situations. Hope they fix the mental health system. I read that 10% of college students have mental health issues ouch

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Then there's a whole list of attacks and murders just because of the crime that Japan had a strong economy back in the 80s. One guy named Vincent Chin was murdered during his bachelor party having his head cracked open with a baseball bat by two Detroit autoworkers because they thought he was Japanese. They ended up with a punishment that was less than if you killed a deer out of hunting season.

Backlashes do happen and for some of the most simplist of reasons.

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Good that you bring up this incident. It shows the ferocity of the anti-Japan feeling at that time in US just because of Japan's strength despite it being a strong US ally. Of course now with China's rise, similar feelings is directed towards China & now that Japan is useful in the China-US rivalry, Japan is portrayed as angels in the west compared to China. What a joke. They must think their audience is a bunch of kids.