Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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plawolf

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Normally when one of those Eastern European country try to provoke China like Lithuania they're kind of too small for China to grasp and lay the smack down. In this case its there's a big opportunity to put the hurt on Ukraine.

Of course it's trivial if CPC doesn't care about sanctions. Just openly supply Russia with arms. But I doubt that would happen so it has to be done with more creative means. Hence why the first thing I could think of was sending PGMs like Krasnopol and KAB-500L back to Russia. If found on the battlefield there's plausible deniability.

Ayi has said earlier on in the war that the greater the NATO involvement the more incentive there is for China to increasingly support Russia, as all that NATO ammo and weapon getting used up in Ukraine mean less for Taiwan in the future. With HIMARS and HARM showing up it makes sense to send Russia some support. Anyone else have any ideas for support with plausible deniability?

I would expect diplomatic hints before anything substantive occurs on the ground.

Although such diplomatic hints may well be delivered behind closed doors so we may never know about them, or won’t find out till years later.

Lithuania is America’s lapdog, and prone to public yapping, so it’s doubtful just how much the EU can actually rein them in without facing massive public backlash. However, I think getting the likes of Germany and France to rein in their own generals and admirals is very much in the gift of Paris and Berlin to give.

I would expect something along the lines of, say Mr French and German, we are friends, but I am also friends with Russia, so I’m not taking sides in Ukraine. But your militaries recent words and actions makes be doubt your sincerity in our friendship. If two not-friends are actively supplying weapons to kill the soldiers of one of my actual friends, then it would be hard for me to remain neutral. Are we still friends Mr French and Mr German?
 

Canton_pop

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Pacified and now prospering.

Who suffered the most.

from the ashes rises a phoenix.

Insect termination successful.

become a Chinese pond.

From 5 to 4 to 3, its been decreasing in numbers.

China is decoupling and the American are not, in this divorce my question is who is suffering the most! IF you can answer that question then I retract my statement.
Humanity will suffer the most and it's has just began!
 

Ringsword

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Humanity will suffer the most and it's has just began!
A bit of news:British,Canadian "trade"delegation plans to visit Taiwan.What the hell is going on??Mark my words it'll be like Korean War again 8-11 countries with US leading the pack of hyenas to attack China-hopefully China can incinerate most of them-cannot afford to lose-it'll be the end of the Chinese civilization
 

Biscuits

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A bit of news:British,Canadian "trade"delegation plans to visit Taiwan.What the hell is going on??Mark my words it'll be like Korean War again 8-11 countries with US leading the pack of hyenas to attack China-hopefully China can incinerate most of them-cannot afford to lose-it'll be the end of the Chinese civilization
In the region itself, China should have better allies, especially Russia but even NK is no slouch because their army is seriously large, and as shown by Ukraine, quantity has a quality on its own.

The danger if China loses is not just about Chinese civilization but end of human civilization overall. This is the first time in history where a nuclear power claims the core territory of another nuclear power, both with enough nukes to wipe out at least a continent's worth of population centers.

Lets assume the American invasion succeeds, what happens from then on? How can US deescalate without causing nuclear war?

Of course, one scenario would be that Chinese simply don't care enough about Taiwan Island to risk nuclear annihilation over it, similarly to how US would not risk nuclear annihilation over Guam or even Hawaii, but is very likely to do it over Los Angeles or San Fransisco. To China, Taiwan is not as important as the Mainland, but it is not as unimportant as Guam is to America either.

Betting on that scenario is a huge gamble where the winning stakes is US expanding its territory, China taking a large military setback. But the losing stake is literally the end of human civilization.

The reason why US is so dangerous is that this might be a gamble they could take, because the mentality among many US leaders is just like the Germans in ww2. "America will be a world power, or America will not be at all".
 

tygyg1111

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A bit of news:British,Canadian "trade"delegation plans to visit Taiwan.What the hell is going on??Mark my words it'll be like Korean War again 8-11 countries with US leading the pack of hyenas to attack China-hopefully China can incinerate most of them-cannot afford to lose-it'll be the end of the Chinese civilization
These countries can't do much without US support, and in the long run they might face an Australian scenario, where their actions cause economic & diplomatic blowback far beyond what they were prepared for, and eventually back down with a view to just fence sit it out without attracting further damage.
 

9dashline

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In the region itself, China should have better allies, especially Russia but even NK is no slouch because their army is seriously large, and as shown by Ukraine, quantity has a quality on its own.

The danger if China loses is not just about Chinese civilization but end of human civilization overall. This is the first time in history where a nuclear power claims the core territory of another nuclear power, both with enough nukes to wipe out at least a continent's worth of population centers.

Lets assume the American invasion succeeds, what happens from then on? How can US deescalate without causing nuclear war?

Of course, one scenario would be that Chinese simply don't care enough about Taiwan Island to risk nuclear annihilation over it, similarly to how US would not risk nuclear annihilation over Guam or even Hawaii, but is very likely to do it over Los Angeles or San Fransisco. To China, Taiwan is not as important as the Mainland, but it is not as unimportant as Guam is to America either.

Betting on that scenario is a huge gamble where the winning stakes is US expanding its territory, China taking a large military setback. But the losing stake is literally the end of human civilization.

The reason why US is so dangerous is that this might be a gamble they could take, because the mentality among many US leaders is just like the Germans in ww2. "America will be a world power, or America will not be at all".
Your supposition is that end of humanity is the worst possible outcome. I dont concur at all
 
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