Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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tphuang

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Everyone would've forgotten about this in a few weeks...
I think this is good. White House is basically realizing they don't want this to get further out of control and are tempering things down. In a few weeks, there will be no difference compared to a regular transit (that USN does frequently) through Taiwan Straits. Big concern is what happens with that new bill. We will see.
 

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Taiwan is just going to be Diaoyu Island writ large from now on with PLA instead of CCG. What are you going to do send a CVN to play chicken with PLAN all year round?
If the US continues to provoke the mainland, the mainland can provoke right back. For example, by sending a million tourists to the island in a single vast phalanx. The tourists will just be doing innocent touristy things, like taking pictures and discarding empty beer cans. But they'll be there, in one vast group, impossible to ignore. They'll be a warning.
 

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If Lyle Goldstein wasn't such a nervous wreck here, he would be a good candidate to articulate co-existence of China and America. There is just nobody pushing for diplomacy at all.

 

Luke Warmwar

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I think some members have previously suggested creating one.
If you want, I'll kick it off by reposting some of my past musings.

The key narrative is that China's rise is a good thing in the world, which there is a strong case for. For example:

China delivers global prosperity. A wealthy prosperous China will drag up incomes in the rest of the world. 7 out of 8 billion people in the world live in low or middle-income countries.

Or China will likely make the world carbon-neutral and therefore prevent catastrophic climate change
I think it’d be an interesting discussion to have, since there are a fair few thoughts on it.

Some think it should essentially continue with the status quo approach of a mutual development narrative, like what you’ve suggested.

Others think the way to go is exacerbating tensions in the west, a la RT’s approach.

Others still take a more defeatist (or rather, militarist) approach, arguing that it’s impossible to have meaningful influence within an enemy’s domain without military might to back it up.

I personally think there’s an avenue for dissident media too. Rather than aim for broad dissemination of a message through ‘proper’ channels, build ties with ideologically aligned groups in other nations and bolster them, to enable them to make the case for China.

But this is all best suited for another thread, if you’d like to do the honours of creating it.
 

SunlitZelkova

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I think "the Reagan is too provocative" is actually just an excuse to keep it back away from land based AShMs.

If, somehow, war suddenly breaks out in the middle of the FONOP (or whatever it is going to be referred to), they don't want to have a carrier sitting not only under the cover of those land based AShMs but also under the S-300s (not that flight ops would really be possible anyways).
 
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