Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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FairAndUnbiased

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You cannot be serious to gauge effectiveness based on some social media shit posting.

Look at major real world results.


China Surpasses US in Eyes of Young Africans, Survey Shows - Bloomberg
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At a glance, one may wish to celebrate that China has a higher approval rating than the usa. The difference is 4%. However, once you look at the context you realize China's performance is pathetic.

Caucasians who are...
ultra anti black racists
raped Blacks for centuries
enslaved Blacks for centuries
spread racism and stereotypes against Blacks
bomb Black people
debt trap black people
assassinate or overthrow Black leaders abroad
assassinate Black civil rights leaders at home
steal Black wealth
steal Black resources
played a major role in creating the the Rwandan genocide
lied and destroy Libya, one of the most prosperous African nations and got their leader brutally killed.
conducted secret biological human experiments on Blacks

these ultra racist anti Black war criminals are BARELY defeated at the polls by a China that does none of those things. In fact, who else but China has developed Africa with super low interest loans, forgiven billions in debt, transferred technology, given scholarships to students that would NEVER be admitted if held to national standards, given extensive invaluable infrastructure, etc.

Basically, an angel has the about the same reputation as a devil.

This is a testament to the undeniable effectiveness of Western psychological warfare and the extreme incompetence of Chinese communication. Can you please stop with the embarrassing cope. It's just sad.
people don't really care about history or long screeds regarding history though. they care about the present and simple, easy to observe facts.
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Compare the bilateral aid given... US is #1,
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, yet approval rates are similar. Also, Africans don't identify with African Americans, so there's that too.

where's the cope? I even said that China's soft power is anemic compared to Qatar and Russia, hell, even the Taliban, who are actually pretty good at social media era soft power. But that's who China should learn from (and as distasteful as I find their policies, westerners like Donald Trump, Ben Shapiro, etc) rather than New York Times, CNN or any of that 'cerebral' dinosaur mainstream media.
 

2=GT

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They never seemed to like him in the first place.


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The place went on roller coaster this week.

From Shoot down her plane if she dares to okay if she dares, we should escort her plane to okay if she somehow lands, we should flyover Taipei to Xi is an embarrassment, the great humiliation continues to now Ok maybe we can salvage this.

Regardless of all the antics, it is becoming clear that Nancy Pelosi has single-handedly given China govt. the greatest chance to improve their strategic positions in the 1st-island chain in 10 years especially around Taiwan. The last time being when China started constructing man-made islands in SCS which has now turn that bastion of water into a Chinese lake. I mean US CSG now mostly avoid transiting through SCS entirely and exist out somewhere through some straits within the Philippines.

The question now is how will Xi and govt. ultilize this moment. Normalizing strait exercises with mini-blockades and rendering the median line non-existent is the best possible outcome for Xi's govt. The military benefits are endless (training for PLA forces while degrading and stretching ROC forces thin) and it makes US looks terrible since it will be seen like Taiwan has been left to fend for themselves after they stirred up this mess.

Another surprising result from all this is how other nuetral and US allied countries are viewing the US as provocative in this instance which will sow some doubt into the overall geopolitical plan of the US.

This has been a net positive for China.

The emotional reaction here has been great. My eyes are all dried from all the laughter reading some of the comments.

Exactly, this unnecessary provocation from Pelosi is a heaven sent gift to the PLA allowing them to encircle TW with almost no consequence.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Latest available update of the positions of various kinds of ships around Taiwan, with 2 hours remaining till the commencement of the exercise.
plataiwan01.jpg

Note: The positions of many ships shown on the map are not the latest, as there are delays in data transmission from the ships themselves, radar and satellite, and to the projection onto the map above.
The delay can range from as little as several minutes to as much as more than 10 hours.
 
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latenlazy

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I think it's intentional misdirection.

By implying that Pelosi's plane might be shot down, an effective albeit temporary blockade of Taiwan seems reasonable in comparison.

What's more, by implying a shoot down, it forces the US to deploy assets to guard against that eventuality, such that when you announce a blockade instead, they are caught off guard and don't have a response ready.
To be fair, everything out of DC indicates that the prospect of Pelosi being shot down sent the whole defense apparatus into a panicked state about how to prepare. So in a way even if people on the China side were disappointed about those threats not materializing it was a really mindf&#! panic moment for the US side.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Latest update of the positions of various kinds of ships around Taiwan, almost 2 hours from the start of the military exercise:
View attachment 94834

Note: The positions of many ships shown on the map are not the latest, as there are delays in data transmission from the ships themselves, radar and satellite, and to the projection onto the map above.
The delay can range from as little as several minutes to as much as more than 10 hours.
They'd better get lost.
 

lych470

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Would be consistent with Tsai's political modus. Elevate Taiwan as a victim to draw global sympathies in order to maximize international pressure for an intervention. But who knows if that's just silly gossip.

So what do they do if fighters and missiles are flying outside the exercise zone.

Cry 'Help! Help! I'm being repressed!'.
 
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