Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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Petrolicious88

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Its super hard to do this. This requires an elaborate structure and most importantly experience. The US has a well oiled coup machine as they've been practicing this for over a century & is a critical part of their foreign policy.

China is new in this and is still in learning phases. But for this to happen, China has to employ dirty tactics. Like for example what if this group you talk about tries to fleece China of its money or double cross you? What will China do about it? Stop the money? Thats it?

How many overseas assassinations has China carried out? Can China eliminate a foreign politician for double crossing them? CIA sure does and that's how they keep their assets in check. US has hundreds of mercenary groups across the world to carry out such acts, how many does China have?.

Money alone doesn't work, there needs to be an element of coercion alongside. The latter is lacking in Chinas Foreign Policy .
I would say the West has been doing this for the last 200 years. The U.S learned from the British, and the British ruled half of the world back then.
 

Barefoot

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Let's get things back on track, shall we?

Only 2 hours and 37 minutes to go until the exercises go live. What weapons systems would you like to see on display?

I wonder if H-20 will finally make an appearance. Not in the exercise, obviously, but perhaps being shown on camera for the first time?

I'd be very disappointed if all we are shown are some J-11/J-16 and unguided rockets.
Taiwanese F-16s ;)

(only kiddin')
 

lych470

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Rumor has it Taiwanese military is not allowed to fire back when fired upon but must immediately raise the issue with International Community… I don’t know what to make of this. Too stupid to be true.

If that's their dumb ROE then PRC really ought to sail the Liaoning CSG right outside Kaohsiung.

Edit: Better yet, sail both the Liaoning and Shandong CSG right through the Taiwan Strait.
 

latenlazy

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Rumor has it Taiwanese military is not allowed to fire back when fired upon but must immediately raise the issue with International Community… I don’t know what to make of this. Too stupid to be true.
Would be consistent with Tsai's political modus. Elevate Taiwan as a victim to draw global sympathies in order to maximize international pressure for an intervention. But who knows if that's just silly gossip.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Another case-&-point example:


*spanks*

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... wait wtf
that was an example of effective propaganda.

1. shorter. shows confidence in its self righteousness. it is weak to write a long screed as a response.
2. factual. nothing there can be proven false.
3. attitude. edgy with plausible deniability.

and if you look at the comments, who really won the information war? anyone defending Mitch?

now the room for improvement is huge. There's only 1 Chen Weihua, and overusing his style is ineffective, particularly in actual diplomatic settings. But it shows that Chinese government is at least experimenting with new models of public outreach that don't rely on the very obsolete Deng model or the spin/wording only based one, and some are demonstrating success.
 

solarz

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I wish it was never brought up as an option. True, only Hu Xijin brought up the shootdown option, but the Eastern Combat Theater saber rattling about "burying enemies" didn't exactly help clarify the situation, did it? When the enemies they intend to bury turn out to be yellow croakers instead, people are rightfully disappointed.

I am of the opinion that had they kept the threat vague until Pelosi landed, things would be no where as bad as it is now. In my opinion the patrol/live fire blockade training is a reasonable response.

I think it's intentional misdirection.

By implying that Pelosi's plane might be shot down, an effective albeit temporary blockade of Taiwan seems reasonable in comparison.

What's more, by implying a shoot down, it forces the US to deploy assets to guard against that eventuality, such that when you announce a blockade instead, they are caught off guard and don't have a response ready.
 
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