F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Jeff Head

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Re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

The IAF found low level flights to be less survivable when the enemy is capable enough on the ground during Kargil war.

That's the reason why low level flights of Mig-27, Jaguar and Mig-21s were withdrawn. Helicopters were withdrawn too. There were too many Stingers on the ground.
Well, the F-35 will defintely not be making low level, reltively slow CAS flights.

The A-10 on the other hand, was designed and armored to do so...and has done so very effectively.

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FORBIN

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F-35b initial operational capability

I don' t know if F-35 internal gun or in pod was already tested.
And carry much less ammunition than the F-22 for her 25 mm 4-barrel Gatling, internally 182 rounds for the A , 220 in pod B/C, F-22 480 and A-10 !...

F-35B INITIAL OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY

Marine Corps F-35B IOC is July of 2015 (objective) and December 2015 (threshold). IOC requires the first squadron to have 10 aircraft in the Block 2B configuration capable of executing CAS; limited offensive and defensive counter-air; air interdiction; air support escort; armed reconnaissance; and limited suppression of enemy air defenses. Additionally, 6 aircraft need to be capable of executing amphibious carrier operations. The aircraft is currently tracking to reach its full operational capability in Q4 of CY 2017. The full transition from legacy to F-35 will complete with the transition of the second reserve squadron in 2032. The transition got underway on 2 April 2010 with the stand up of VMFAT-501, the first Marine Corps JSF STOVL training squadron. On 16 November 2012, VMFA-121 stood up as the first Marine Corps operational JSF STOVL squadron.

The F-35B IOC is defined as:

•One squadron of 10 F-35B aircraft with required spares, support equipment, tools, technical publications, and a functional Autonomic Logistic information system (ALIS V2) including enabling peripherals.

•Squadron will be manned with trained and certified personnel capable of conducting autonomous operations.

•Aircraft in a Block 2B software configuration with the requisite performance envelope, mission systems, sensors, and weapon clearances.

•Home base supporting infrastructure and facilities ready and capable of supporting and sustaining operations.

•Qualifications, certifications, and L-class amphibious carrier alterations completed to enable F-35B operations.

F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER

•Qualifications and certifications for deploying the F-35B to austere expeditionary sites.

•Ability to execute CAS; limited offensive and defensive counter-air; air interdiction; air support escort; armed reconnaissance; and limited suppression of enemy air defenses missions in concert with Marine Air Ground Task Force resources and capabilities within the performance envelope, mission systems, sensors, and weapons clearances provided by the 2B fleet release.

•Naval Aviation Enterprise (NAE), Joint Program Office (JPO) and contractor procedures, processes, and infrastructure capable of sustaining operations of the IOC squadron

The

TACAIR 2030 Roadmap is a departure from the previous AVPLAN’s TACAIR

transition order. The F-35 transition continues per the program of record, while the AV-8B and F/A-18 order of transition has changed.

* AV-8B will transition to the F-35B first, with a planned sunset of 2025.

* F/A-18A-D will transition in the out years with a planned sunset of 2029 for the active component and 2030 for the reserve component.

The TACAIR transition will retain flexibility with regards to VMA/VMFA transition order based on F-35 program progress and legacy readiness.

Life remaining on F/A-18A-D allows prioritization of legacy STOVL conversion to 5th Generation STOVL capability while utilizing F/A-18A-D as the final bridging platform to complete the TACAIR transition. Two independent cost-benefit analyses were conducted. Visibility and Management of Operating and Supporting Cost (VAMOSC) analysis estimated changing transition order would result in cost avoidance of over one billion dollars through 2030.

The AVPLAN now prioritizes F-35B sourcing to MAGTF (MEUs) in the PACOM AOR with the first VMA transition (VMA-211) planned to begin FY16. The pace of the AV-8B conversion has been accelerated and F-35B will source 31st MEU requirement beginning 3QFY17.

All West Coast MEUs will be sourced with F-35B by end of FY19. The sequence of AV-8B transition to F-35 prioritizes MAG-13 in 3d MAW enabled by timely F-35 MilCon and Navy L-Class amphibious carrier modifications

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Air Force Brat

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Re: F-35b initial operational capability

I don' t know if F-35 internal gun or in pod was already tested.
And carry much less ammunition than the F-22 for her 25 mm 4-barrel Gatling, internally 182 rounds for the A , 220 in pod B/C, F-22 480 and A-10 !...

F-35B INITIAL OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY



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Well the F-35 is a 5/8 inch Raptor, downsized on all fronts, but it does promise to make good use of all its assets, the F-22 is just a "gun-fighter" at heart, the F-35 was designed to be a "bomb-truck"
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Re: F-35b initial operational capability

Well the F-35 is a 5/8 inch Raptor, downsized on all fronts, but it does promise to make good use of all its assets, the F-22 is just a "gun-fighter" at heart, the F-35 was designed to be a "bomb-truck"

Raptor's gun is the classic M61A2 Vulcan 20mm 6 barrel gatling cannon. Lightning takes it up a notch to the GAU 22 Equalizer a 4 barrel 25mm gatling cannon. She might not have the same number of rounds but she has a bigger gun only A10 and AC130 pack bigger.
 

FORBIN

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Re: F-35b initial operational capability

Well the F-35 is a 5/8 inch Raptor, downsized on all fronts, but it does promise to make good use of all its assets, the F-22 is just a "gun-fighter" at heart, the F-35 was designed to be a "bomb-truck"

Mainly more cheaper, wait a little for it... and it is for this reason he have only one engine, but a little winded because he is the more big single engine never build, 31,8 t max ! with the more big reactor used by a fighter BUT ONE ONLY.
With also a low thrust weight ratio compared to other fighters.

Seems her electronic offset its lower agility, max 7.5 G mainly DAS allowing to anticipate the threat faster which allows also shot an AIM-9X under very strong dispointing.

Many test again, to see...
 
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Air Force Brat

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Re: F-35b initial operational capability

Mainly more cheaper, wait a little for it... and it is for this reason he have only one engine, but a little winded because he is the more big single engine never build, 31,8 t max ! with the more big reactor used by a fighter BUT ONE ONLY.
With also a low thrust weight ratio compared to other fighters.

Seems her electronic offset its lower agility, max 7.5 G mainly DAS allowing to anticipate the threat faster which allows also shot an AIM-9X under very strong dispointing.

Many test again, to see...

That's right for the F-35 the Max Gs are as follows .....
A-model 9 G
B-model 7 G
C-model 7.5 G

as you can see the A model is in no way handicapped, having been flown to 9.9 Gs during testing, so it has a very good "instantaneous" turn rate, the problem is with such a low thrust to weight ratio, that energy bleeds off, giving us a sustained turn rate of around 5 G, still honestly very respectable, the A won't be making any excuses. For that matter neither will the B or C ? as the F-18 pulls G in the same neighborhood.:p:p
 

HMS Astute

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Re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

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Air Force Brat

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Re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread


We see the C model pulling a little vapor even with the flaps and gear down, so I can assure you, she will be very agile, particularly with all the weapons stowed internally, and that lovely bit of extra wing and tail, she will not have to pull as hard to generate the lift necessary to turn quickly!

you will not want this bird on your 6 o:clock, trust me, this airplane will hold its own in a "furball", and those Su-35s better run while they have the chance: and I am very serious, if you're not in a Raptor----leave this one alone!

this airplane has been "maligned" by those who do not know better----it is a "killer", you have my word on it!
 
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A Bar Brother

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Re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Well, the F-35 will defintely not be making low level, reltively slow CAS flights.

The A-10 on the other hand, was designed and armored to do so...and has done so very effectively.

Back to F-35 issues.

My point was the Generals think it doesn't matter if it is an A-10 or a F-35. It flies low, it dies. There is only so much armor on aircraft, making the A-10 a bit of a underperformer in "today's" battlefield.

At medium altitude and with weapons like the Spear, there shouldn't be an armored column today that would survive a F-35. The British have demonstrated that with older aircraft and weapons like the Tornado and Brimstone.
 
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