F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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Fixed for you.. I do not know where that came from....
My brain was on vacation..
Fixed for you.. I do not know where that came from....
My brain was on vacation..re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
Engine ‘Definitely’ to Blame for June F-35 Fire
June 23 fire that severely damaged a Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is “definitely” related to the aircraft’s Pratt & Whitney F135 after-burning turbofan, multiple sources told USNI News.
The Pentagon grounded the entire F-35 fleet on July 3 after it became apparent the June fire on an Air Force variant of the fighter was much more serious than originally thought. The fire, which started at the rear of the aircraft while the jet was taking-off, was initially believed to be a one off incident possibly related to the jet’s integrated power pack.
The power pack combines a 200hp gas turbine with battery and acts as a starter for the F135 engine.
While the F-35 Joint Program Office has declined to comment on the investigation, the focus is on the aircraft’s engine. Sources unanimously pointed to the engine as being at the center of the investigation.
“P&W has the engine now [and is] doing a tear-down,” one military source told USNI News.
“No smoking gun, yet.”
Meanwhile, the Pentagon has ordered additional inspections of F135 engines installed across the roughly 104 aircraft strong F-35 fleet. That includes all three variants flying with the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps. Pratt & Whitney officials said the company is cooperating with the investigation.
“We are working closely with the Air Force Safety Investigation Board to determine root cause and inspect all engines in the fleet. Safety is our top priority,” company spokesman Matthew Bates told USNI News on Monday. “Since the incident is the subject of an investigation it is inappropriate to comment further.”
The Air Force has classified the damage to the stricken F-35A as a Class A incident—where the cost estimates for repairs or write-offs exceeds $2 million.
USNI News understands that the F-35A in question suffered extensive damage and may be considered a write-off.
The June fire is the most severe incident to occur in the more than decade old F-35 program that — despite widely reported cost overruns and changes to the program — maintains a very good record for safety.
@Air Force Brat you were right about the engine part !!!
Engine ‘Definitely’ to Blame for June F-35 Fire
June 23 fire that severely damaged a Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is “definitely” related to the aircraft’s Pratt & Whitney F135 after-burning turbofan, multiple sources told USNI News.
The Pentagon grounded the entire F-35 fleet on July 3 after it became apparent the June fire on an Air Force variant of the fighter was much more serious than originally thought. The fire, which started at the rear of the aircraft while the jet was taking-off, was initially believed to be a one off incident possibly related to the jet’s integrated power pack.
The power pack combines a 200hp gas turbine with battery and acts as a starter for the F135 engine.
While the F-35 Joint Program Office has declined to comment on the investigation, the focus is on the aircraft’s engine. Sources unanimously pointed to the engine as being at the center of the investigation.
“P&W has the engine now [and is] doing a tear-down,” one military source told USNI News.
“No smoking gun, yet.”
Meanwhile, the Pentagon has ordered additional inspections of F135 engines installed across the roughly 104 aircraft strong F-35 fleet. That includes all three variants flying with the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps. Pratt & Whitney officials said the company is cooperating with the investigation.
“We are working closely with the Air Force Safety Investigation Board to determine root cause and inspect all engines in the fleet. Safety is our top priority,” company spokesman Matthew Bates told USNI News on Monday. “Since the incident is the subject of an investigation it is inappropriate to comment further.”
The Air Force has classified the damage to the stricken F-35A as a Class A incident—where the cost estimates for repairs or write-offs exceeds $2 million.
USNI News understands that the F-35A in question suffered extensive damage and may be considered a write-off.
The June fire is the most severe incident to occur in the more than decade old F-35 program that — despite widely reported cost overruns and changes to the program — maintains a very good record for safety.
@Air Force Brat you were right about the engine part !!!
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
Well this has scared the "KRAP" out of somebody, as I initially predicted this grounding has spread to entire fleet, telling us that somebody up the ladder has decided that one calamity is more than plenty, so this is more than a precautionary round, this tell us they "don't know enough to know" what has caused this, but of course the hot F-135 is the prime suspect. Make no mistake, this grounding is costing folks a bunch, as in the 100s of millions, so to keep the whole fleet on the ground is a LOSER totally, and they may send those birds to Farnborough just to send a message, even though they are NOT confident that is the right thing to do??? as Jeff says, we will have to wait and see?????
Well this has scared the "KRAP" out of somebody, as I initially predicted this grounding has spread to entire fleet, telling us that somebody up the ladder has decided that one calamity is more than plenty, so this is more than a precautionary round, this tell us they "don't know enough to know" what has caused this, but of course the hot F-135 is the prime suspect. Make no mistake, this grounding is costing folks a bunch, as in the 100s of millions, so to keep the whole fleet on the ground is a LOSER totally, and they may send those birds to Farnborough just to send a message, even though they are NOT confident that is the right thing to do??? as Jeff says, we will have to wait and see?????
Equation
Lieutenant General
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It's just one incident on one bird. What guarantees can the same will happen to the ones sent to Farnborough?
It's just one incident on one bird. What guarantees can the same will happen to the ones sent to Farnborough?
Jura The idiot
General
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread
As explained on my favorite radio station: engine manufacturing is now so perfect that if anything goes wrong with one engine of a certain type it is likely to go similarly wrong with any engine of that type.It's just one incident on one bird. What guarantees can the same will happen to the ones sent to Farnborough?
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
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A few years ago a A380 had a oil fire in flight on engine #1 the fire caused the fan disk to spin beyond what it was rated for it exploded in air sending titanium fragmentation throughout the entire aircraft. Every A380 had to be grounded and Rolls Royce had to examine the engines. The cause was a slump pipe. A cheap oil line that burst in the engine.
A few years ago a A380 had a oil fire in flight on engine #1 the fire caused the fan disk to spin beyond what it was rated for it exploded in air sending titanium fragmentation throughout the entire aircraft. Every A380 had to be grounded and Rolls Royce had to examine the engines. The cause was a slump pipe. A cheap oil line that burst in the engine.