F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

thunderchief

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The Marine Corps will declare the F-35B operational before completing engine bulkhead modifications[/U], according to the service's top officer.

Well, Marines are naturally most enthusiastic about the aircraft, because they really don't have anything other to fallback upon .

On the other hand, I would say that Navy is least satisfied with F-35C . I bet they would privately want more Super Hornets and funding for further modification of said aircraft.
 

asif iqbal

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Well, Marines are naturally most enthusiastic about the aircraft, because they really don't have anything other to fallback upon .

On the other hand, I would say that Navy is least satisfied with F-35C . I bet they would privately want more Super Hornets and funding for further modification of said aircraft.

Incorrect the marines primary mission is naval operations with amphibious assault being at the forefront the air component is just one small part of the over all capability the marines have available to them
 
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

From MARINE CORPS AIR STATION BEAUFORT, SC:

Posted on InsideDefense.com: June 27, 2014

The Marine Corps is ready to begin F-35 pilot training here at the start of fiscal year 2015 as long planned, according to the officer in charge of the new training center, but current schedules would leave the center with a shortage of full-mission simulators for a number of months.

The Marines are at an inflection point in their Joint Strike Fighter training program as they get ready to leave the multiservice, multinational training center at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida and open their own facility at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, SC. Inside the Navy visited the base and the newly constructed F-35B Pilot Training Center (PTC) on June 24 and toured the facility with its lead officer, Lt. Col. Luis Villalobos.

Villalobos said the service is prepared to open its doors on Oct. 1 and will graduate between 14 and 16 pilots in FY-15 using a curriculum nearly identical to what has been taught at Eglin AFB. He and his staff were instructed by the deputy commandant of the Marine Corps to be "ready for operations" at the start of calendar year 2014, to give the PTC time to test out its plans and activities for the fall. An evaluation done this spring showed promising results, he added.

MCAS Beaufort is scheduled to receive its first two F-35 aircraft in early July.

"In the March and April time frame, we did a dry run of the training system," Villalobos said. "We did a three-week quick look to assess all those things, from how well our [contractor instructor pilots] are qualified and standardized to be able to instruct, if we have any IT anomalies or anything like that, and what we found out is that I think we are pretty confident . . . for our transition conversion pilots to start in October."

"Transition conversion pilots" refers to experienced Marine aviators who are moving from the F/A-18 Hornet or AV-8B Harrier to the short-takeoff-vertical-landing F-35B. Eventually, the Marine Corps and the other military services will allow pilots straight out of flight school to enter JSF training, but that will occur after the aircraft has been deemed to reach initial operational capability.

The Marines' desired F-35 IOC date, which is driving nearly all JSF-related activities at a breakneck pace, is the fall or winter of 2015. There are many factors that could impact the service's ability to hit that target: the pace of developmental and operational flight testing, modifications to existing aircraft, and pilot and maintainer production, among others.

Villalobos mentioned one slight disconnect between resources and schedules that could affect the training center's ability to instruct as many pilots as expected. The PTC currently has two full-mission F-35 simulators and is scheduled to receive its third and fourth simulators from Lockheed Martin in the fall of 2015. However, he said it is important those two additional simulators arrive at Beaufort sooner, because the Marine Corps is starting to accept pilots into the JSF training pipeline who are qualified but not as experienced as those already in the program.

"We need more simulators, and Headquarters Marine Corps has been very supportive in trying to push that through the [F-35 joint program office]," he said. "Just like the aircraft production line, the simulator production line has gone through a lot of iterative learning, and part of that has been the time line associated with how long it takes to build a simulator and so forth. What we've seen is Lockheed is trying to pull that time line back to the left a little bit more, but honestly I think we need to look at having those simulators on hand as part of the criteria to be able" to train so-called Category 1 pilots, those with meaningful but limited fighter experience.

Villalobos continued: "We need to have those simulators here by no later than mid-summer of 2015, the third and fourth sims, which are currently projected to be here early fall."

The PTC is being asked to grow its pilot graduation figures quickly -- from around 15 next year, to 26 in FY-16, and up to around 60 in the following two years.

The F-35 simulators at MCAS Beaufort will at first be configured with Block 2A software and hardware, which enables very limited usage of the aircraft's advanced sensors. Most of the Marine Corps' training jets are actually equipped with an inferior software load, Block 1B, and the simulators are backwards-compatible with that block.

Marine IOC requires delivery of the next version of F-35 software and hardware, called Block 2B, which will for the first time allow the aircraft to launch some live weapons and introduce additional avionics capabilities. The simulators and courseware used at Beaufort will need to be updated to reflect Block 2B once it becomes available to the fleet sometime next year.

The Joint Strike Fighter's pilot-training simulators are generally considered to be of extremely high quality, and Villalobos said he hopes some maintenance training will eventually be able to be done on the machines as well. For the foreseeable future, Marine maintainers will continue to be trained at Eglin AFB alongside technicians from other services and countries.
 

SouthernSky

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On the other hand, I would say that Navy is least satisfied with F-35C . I bet they would privately want more Super Hornets and funding for further modification of said aircraft.

Nothing more than hearsay and conjecture. Like every other aircraft the USN has been given the F-35C will have all of it's capabilities fully exploited by them. Nothing will come close to a USN carrier loaded with F-35C's now and into the foreseeable future.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Grounding updates
F-35Bs Flying But A, C Ops On Hold

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Amy Butler
Fri, 2014-06-27 16:26
Three U.S. Marine Corps F-35Bs have taken off from Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona, en route to NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, ahead of their planned Atlantic Ocean crossing to the United Kingdom.

Four F-35Bs are expected to be in country by the week of July 7 for flying displays at the Royal International Air Tattoo and Farnborough air show next month.

"The Marine Corps will resume F-35B flight operations today. We are continuing with our plans to deploy to the U.K. next month," said Capt. Rich Ulsh, a Marine Corps spokesman.

This signals at least a partial resumption of flight for the F-35 fleet; 95 F-35s have been down for a "safety pause" after the aft end of an F-35A, AF-27, erupted into fire on the runway at Eglin AFB, Florida, prior to takeoff June 23. The pilot safely egressed, and investigators are trying to find the root cause.

F-35As operated by the Air Force and Cs operated by the Navy have not yet been cleared to fly, according to spokeswomen at the respective services.

Ulsh declined to say whether the resumption of flight operations signaled that the B was exonerated from concerns related to the fire. But the earlier stand down was conducted in the interest of flight safety.

It is unclear whether the flight operations approved for the F-35B are exclusive only to the aircraft transiting to Patuxent River.

The first flight window for the Atlantic crossing is slated to be June 29. However, technically, the F-35Bs do not have to be in the United Kingdom until the week of July 7 when pilots must conduct their verification flights ahead of the show displays.
F-35 In Fire Was Recent Delivery

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Amy Butler
Thu, 2014-06-26 13:42
The F-35A that caught fire June 23 was a recent delivery from low-rate initial production lot 5 of the stealthy fighter.

Ninety-five F-35s have been delivered to date.

All F-35s remain barred from flight operations as investigators continue to explore the cause of the fire in the aft end of an F-35A as it prepared for takeoff at Eglin AFB, Florida.

Some test aircraft were flying as of June 25 at Edwards AFB, California, and NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, says Kyra Hawn, a program spokeswoman. But as of June 26, flights are suspended for safety reasons. Some test assets, however, have been cleared for ground use at the test centers.

The single-engine aircraft are in a "cautionary suspension of flight," Hawn says. Lockheed Martin manufactures the F-35, which costs nearly $100 million apiece.

A determination has not yet been made on the cost of the damage to the aircraft that caught fire, but it is likely to be the first F-35 class A mishap. A class A mishap occurs when an aircraft sustains more than $2 million in damage or results in a fatality; in this case the pilot safely egressed before foam was used to extinguish the fire. But the fire is thought to have badly damaged the Pratt & Whitney F135 engine.

No military airworthiness authority has yet issued a grounding order. Decisions to stand-down flight are being made by local commanders, according to military officials.

"Safety of our personnel, community, and aircraft are our key concern in all flight-test operations. Following the June 23 F-35A incident, some local operators opted to temporarily suspend F-35B and C operations as a precaution," says Lt. Jackie Pau, a Navy spokeswoman. "The [Marine and Navy] airworthiness authorities are awaiting initial assessment results from the investigating authorities to enable decision-making with regards to flight operations of F-35B and C. This initial assessment and subsequent decision by the airworthiness authorities will not compromise the safety/mishap investigation proceedings."

Likewise, the U.S. Air Force has now suspended all F-35A flying operations; wing commanders previously issued the order to halt flights. "The wing commander temporarily suspended flying operations, while Air Education and Training Command initiated a safety investigation. As a precautionary measure, the Air Force has decided to temporarily suspend all F-35A operations until it is determined that flights can resume safely," says Maj. Natasha Waggoner, an Air Force spokeswoman. "This is not an uncommon practice following a mishap. It ensures the safety of our crews and our aircraft so we can determine there is no fleet-wide issue that needs to be addressed."

Hawn says the halt to flight operations is still not expected to impede the Marine Corps’ ability to launch four F-35Bs from Patuxent River in advance of their international debut at the Royal International Air Tattoo outside London the week of July 7. However, officials are keeping an eye on storms predicted in the North Atlantic Ocean this weekend that could delay the launch by 24 hr.

Editor's Note: This article incorrectly stated the Class A mishap damage cost threshold. It was updated in 2009 to be $2 million.
 

thunderchief

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Nothing more than hearsay and conjecture. Like every other aircraft the USN has been given the F-35C will have all of it's capabilities fully exploited by them. Nothing will come close to a USN carrier loaded with F-35C's now and into the foreseeable future.

Actually, USN plans to retain Super Hornets and use them alongside F-35C until 6th gen fighters arrive . They even lobbied to purchase more of them instead of F-35C . Reasons for that are numerous and one of them is maximum speed of F-35 . F-35A has maximum speed of 1.61 Mach , and F-35C has larger wings so ... calculate yourself . ;)


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Actually, USN plans to retain Super Hornets and use them alongside F-35C until 6th gen fighters arrive . They even lobbied to purchase more of them instead of F-35C . Reasons for that are numerous and one of them is maximum speed of F-35 . F-35A has maximum speed of 1.61 Mach , and F-35C has larger wings so ... calculate yourself . ;)


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Just because they want more Growlers, does NOT mean they are un-happy with the C model, and yes they will use them concurrently. The F-14 was faster than the F-18, but they still retired the Tomcat, and promoted the Hornet???
 

thunderchief

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Just because they want more Growlers, does NOT mean they are un-happy with the C model, and yes they will use them concurrently. The F-14 was faster than the F-18, but they still retired the Tomcat, and promoted the Hornet???

Don't get me started on that, there are many people that still can't get over destruction of so many beautiful planes ;) Scraping of F-14s was IMHO wrong decision because it left capability gap in some areas that super Hornet could not fulfill and F-35C is even less capable in this regard .

[video=youtube;9W7pph9KhYY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W7pph9KhYY[/video]
 

thunderchief

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:p

“There will be some challenges integrating the F-35 on the carrier. Most have been identified,” he says. A carrier air wing typically has anywhere from 44 to 54 fighter jets. The Navy expects that for the foreseeable future, most of the fighters in the air wing will be Super Hornets, and that the F-35C will have a niche role as an airborne intelligence nerve center.

The F-35C will be predominantly an “information collector and distributor in the air wing,” says Burks. As the Navy’s only “stealth” aircraft that can fly undetected by radar, it will be prepared to “go alone into highly contested areas,” he adds. But most of the time it will serve as the hub of a “network centric” air wing.

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