timepass
Brigadier
IMHO:
For F23P, it will be on the lines of 054A (scaled down version).
For F24P, it will be almost the same 054A or may be new design.
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F-22P and 053 series
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IMHO:
For F23P, it will be on the lines of 054A (scaled down version).
For F24P, it will be almost the same 054A or may be new design.
timepass
Brigadier
As mentioned in PS# 168, PN have breathing space of 5-7 years when Type 21 goes offline. Hence, procurement of another 6-8 FFGs & 6 SSKs would easily available on soft loan basis from China.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Looks we are getting 3 more OHPs which would mean four in total
Putting these three through the $65 million upgrade and refit then upgrading all four with the Turkish GENESIS programme would give four very good frigates for Pakistan Navy
Three FFG are FFG-42,45 and 49
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
I was wondering if it was economical to upgrade just one OHP under GENESIS programme now it makes more sense following is from Warship magazine
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
I hope this tanker can replenishmnet both F22P and OHP, things looking good for PN
Steel cutting ceremony of Fleet Tanker being built for Pakistan Navy held at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works - Press Note issued by Pakistan Navy
November 27, 2013
Following is the text of press note issued by Pakistan Navy
STEEL CUTTING Ceremony of the 17,000 Tons FLEET TANKER, being built for Pakistan Navy, was held today at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works. Rana Tanveer Hussain, Federal Minister for Defence Production graced the occasion as Chief Guest. The ceremony was attended by Ambassador of Turkey, Vice Admiral M Zakaullah, Vice Chief of Naval Staff, Mr. Murad Bayar, Undersecretary Defence Industries Turkey, Lt Gen (R) Tanvir Tahir, Secretary MoDP, senior Turkish Delegates and other high ranking Civil and Military Officials from Turkey and Pakistan.
Pakistan Navy’s Fleet Tanker will primarily provide logistics support to PN units at sea through transfer of liquid and dry cargo. The ship will also be able to undertake anti-submarine and anti-surface vessel operations through embarked helicopters.
The same helicopters can also be used for search and rescue operations. The ship will be fitted with latest medical facilities to provide medical support to PN fleet units as well as during disaster relief operations. The ship will be able to independently operate at sea for prolonged period and is capable to transfer stores at sea.
On the occasion, the Chief Guest appreciated Karachi Shipyard for being a profit bearing unit of MoDP. He said that during the recent years, KS and EW has delivered various vessels, achieving all construction milestones with international standards of quality.
This reflects the complete revitalization of KS and EW. On behalf of Government of Pakistan, he assured that all shipbuilding orders will be given to KS and EW to help sustain the progress of this organization.
He further said that considering the significance of Shipbuilding Industry, establishment of a new shipyard with greater ship repair facilities at Gawadar is also under active consideration at the highest level of Government and this project will materialize soon.
Earlier MD KS and EW, Rear Admiral Syed Hasan Nasir Shah in his welcome address thanked MoDP (Government of Pakistan) and especially Pakistan Navy for their continued patronage. He highlighted the brotherly relations with Turkey and said that this everlasting friendship now enters a new era as we together undertake this mega project of building the Fleet Tanker.
He further said KS and EW is fully equipped with infrastructure and have highly trained workforce of technicians and engineers who are ready to undertake challenging project of Fleet Tanker with zeal and energy.
For more information, contact:
Lieutenant Commander Shakeel Ahmad
Assistant Director
Directorate of Public Relations
Pakistan Navy
Tel: +9221 2006 3210
Cell: +92333 217 1764 and +92300 217 1038
Steel cutting ceremony of Fleet Tanker being built for Pakistan Navy held at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works - Press Note issued by Pakistan Navy
November 27, 2013
Following is the text of press note issued by Pakistan Navy
STEEL CUTTING Ceremony of the 17,000 Tons FLEET TANKER, being built for Pakistan Navy, was held today at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works. Rana Tanveer Hussain, Federal Minister for Defence Production graced the occasion as Chief Guest. The ceremony was attended by Ambassador of Turkey, Vice Admiral M Zakaullah, Vice Chief of Naval Staff, Mr. Murad Bayar, Undersecretary Defence Industries Turkey, Lt Gen (R) Tanvir Tahir, Secretary MoDP, senior Turkish Delegates and other high ranking Civil and Military Officials from Turkey and Pakistan.
Pakistan Navy’s Fleet Tanker will primarily provide logistics support to PN units at sea through transfer of liquid and dry cargo. The ship will also be able to undertake anti-submarine and anti-surface vessel operations through embarked helicopters.
The same helicopters can also be used for search and rescue operations. The ship will be fitted with latest medical facilities to provide medical support to PN fleet units as well as during disaster relief operations. The ship will be able to independently operate at sea for prolonged period and is capable to transfer stores at sea.
On the occasion, the Chief Guest appreciated Karachi Shipyard for being a profit bearing unit of MoDP. He said that during the recent years, KS and EW has delivered various vessels, achieving all construction milestones with international standards of quality.
This reflects the complete revitalization of KS and EW. On behalf of Government of Pakistan, he assured that all shipbuilding orders will be given to KS and EW to help sustain the progress of this organization.
He further said that considering the significance of Shipbuilding Industry, establishment of a new shipyard with greater ship repair facilities at Gawadar is also under active consideration at the highest level of Government and this project will materialize soon.
Earlier MD KS and EW, Rear Admiral Syed Hasan Nasir Shah in his welcome address thanked MoDP (Government of Pakistan) and especially Pakistan Navy for their continued patronage. He highlighted the brotherly relations with Turkey and said that this everlasting friendship now enters a new era as we together undertake this mega project of building the Fleet Tanker.
He further said KS and EW is fully equipped with infrastructure and have highly trained workforce of technicians and engineers who are ready to undertake challenging project of Fleet Tanker with zeal and energy.
For more information, contact:
Lieutenant Commander Shakeel Ahmad
Assistant Director
Directorate of Public Relations
Pakistan Navy
Tel: +9221 2006 3210
Cell: +92333 217 1764 and +92300 217 1038
timepass
Brigadier
Another [Moderator Removed] proof of our corrupt leaders.
IMO, PN don't need OHPs since we are having 4 F22Ps plus we are in final stage of further 4-8 FFGs along with 6 SSKs from China without any DO-MOREs commitments. Moreover, 1st OHP took 5 years don't know these 3 will take how many more years, though as per article it says in next 3 years but who knows .... you never believe on Uncle SAM.
Its just another dirty political move [Moderator Removed]....
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Its 3 years for all three to retire and then the related decommission , refurbish and than hand over. So yes 5 odd years for all 3 to be in hands of PN. OHP are very good platform and can pack quite a punch vs F22Ps if properly equipped, specially in ASW. Also they are being paid for by FMS slated for the PN and based on what is available from used USN equipment is very good use of funds.
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timepass
Brigadier
Yes, but we all know what price we (our leaders) have to pay to make Uncle SAM happy.....
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Let’s look at it this way timepass, we are getting 3 pretty good FFG for a good price I don’t think we could get 3 FFG for like $200 million, plus the current one makes four good frigates undergo Turkish GENESIS and we have 4 very capable frigates plus money goes to Turkey for upgrade or we do it at home either way it’s a win win situation
I don’t think it’s got to do with the current situation because in such transfers it’s all about timing and allocation, the US years ago said 6 OHP for Pakistan, then it’s all about allocating the units and waiting for them to be decommissioned these things are planned years in advance an overnight decision can’t be made all of a sudden*
Add in the four x F22p and four x OHP plus retire the 6 Amazon Class and add in four more Chinese F23P frigates we have the dream team number of 12 very modern FFG which I said before, for F22P and F23P we can repair any damage at home I am sure Turkey can do the same for OHP we have not strings attached here
Steeling cutting for first home built replenishment tanker maybe a second, two small utility tankers, two Azmat Class missile boats, MRTP-15 and MRTP-30 there’s plenty to be happy about and it’s good to finally see the Navy getting their fair share of the defence budget and more attention
Best thing now is that they are integrating the navy with the air component, aerial refuelled JF-17 Thunder Block II covered by ZDK-03 AWACS will be working with the navy, air sea integration which means the air force can detect something the navy can attack it or vice versa never before have we had this kind of capability
Looking ahead this SSK deal is exciting I don’t think we would cancel a German U-boat deal 90% complete if PN wasn’t on to something serious with the Chinese, there’s all the possibility it could launch Babur cruise missile which is nuclear capable giving PN the guardian ship of our second strike capability, you have a nuclear capable submarine out there no one in the right mind is going to mess around with you especially if they know it’s not just for show*
So relax No one becomes a mini-superpower overnight it takes time, our leaders maybe be sell outs but think of the bigger picture, however I do believe our military does sometimes put too much hope and emphasis on our nukes which sometimes kills certain military deals
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
SHANGAHI, Nov 25 (APP): The Pakistan Navy ships, destroyer PNS Khaibar and oil tanker PNS Nasr, were accorded a warm welcome as they arrived on a 4-day goodwill mission here on Monday. Navigating through Wusong estuary and commanded by Commander Destroyer Squadron, Commodore Ali Abbas SI(M), (Mission Commander) with Captain Muhammad Faisal Abbasi and Captain Tarique Hussain the Commanding Officers of PNS Khaibar and Nasr respectively, the type-21 class Khaibar along with Nasr moored to the Shanghai port as Pakistani sailors on board and Chinese sailors on the jetty chanted slogans of “Long live Pakistan China friendship” to herald the ships arrival.
As the ships berthed, an impressive welcome ceremony was held in the harbor that was participated by a large number of senior officials and diplomats from both sides. On the occasion bouquets were also presented.
The Chief of Staff of Shanghai Naval Garrison, Senior Captain Wei Xiaodong along with officials from the Foreign Affairs Office of the Shanghai Municipal government received the Mission Commander together with the commanding officers of the ships at the jetty of Shanghai Port International Cruise Terminal (SPICT).
Naval officers from the Pakistan and PLA Navy including Defence and Naval Attaches and Consul from Pakistan’s Consulate General in Shanghai were present on the occasion.
At the welcome ceremony, the Mission Commander underlined the significance of the visit saying such visits foster goodwill, promote mutual understanding and enhance cooperation between the two countries. It is indeed a pleasure to be with our Chinese brothers and exchange professional views, promote cooperation and friendship, he added.
Rear Admiral Syed Arifullah Hussaini who was leading the delegation following meeting with his counterpart, Rear admiral Li Yujie, Commander of Shanghai Naval Garrison wrote in the visitors’ book that he hoped that the mutual visits will be beneficial for the two great nations and also for international peace and stability.
A smartly dressed PLA contingent given a guard of honour to Rear Admiral Husssaini on arrival at the Shanghai naval garrison. Rearl Admiral Li, later hosted a reception to welcome the arrival of the ships.
Rear Admiral Arifullah Hussaini also called on Shanghai Municipal Government leaderships.
Earlier, the Chinese naval commander Hu Jin Chun, Commander of Escort ship, Anqiang frigate 539 briefed Rear Admiral Hussaini and his entourage about the salient feature and toured them around the ship.
The Pakistani ships duo had embarked on their voyage from Karachi for goodwill cruise on 21st October, touching port cities in Sri Lanka and Thailand before approaching Shanghai. On the next leg of the journey, the ships will destine for Jakarta and the Maldives.
The ships will later on be open to the general public, giving them an opportunity to gain knowledge about their working and functioning.
Both the ships will remain berthed for four days, during which a number of bilateral meetings and other activities have been chalked out.
As the ships berthed, an impressive welcome ceremony was held in the harbor that was participated by a large number of senior officials and diplomats from both sides. On the occasion bouquets were also presented.
The Chief of Staff of Shanghai Naval Garrison, Senior Captain Wei Xiaodong along with officials from the Foreign Affairs Office of the Shanghai Municipal government received the Mission Commander together with the commanding officers of the ships at the jetty of Shanghai Port International Cruise Terminal (SPICT).
Naval officers from the Pakistan and PLA Navy including Defence and Naval Attaches and Consul from Pakistan’s Consulate General in Shanghai were present on the occasion.
At the welcome ceremony, the Mission Commander underlined the significance of the visit saying such visits foster goodwill, promote mutual understanding and enhance cooperation between the two countries. It is indeed a pleasure to be with our Chinese brothers and exchange professional views, promote cooperation and friendship, he added.
Rear Admiral Syed Arifullah Hussaini who was leading the delegation following meeting with his counterpart, Rear admiral Li Yujie, Commander of Shanghai Naval Garrison wrote in the visitors’ book that he hoped that the mutual visits will be beneficial for the two great nations and also for international peace and stability.
A smartly dressed PLA contingent given a guard of honour to Rear Admiral Husssaini on arrival at the Shanghai naval garrison. Rearl Admiral Li, later hosted a reception to welcome the arrival of the ships.
Rear Admiral Arifullah Hussaini also called on Shanghai Municipal Government leaderships.
Earlier, the Chinese naval commander Hu Jin Chun, Commander of Escort ship, Anqiang frigate 539 briefed Rear Admiral Hussaini and his entourage about the salient feature and toured them around the ship.
The Pakistani ships duo had embarked on their voyage from Karachi for goodwill cruise on 21st October, touching port cities in Sri Lanka and Thailand before approaching Shanghai. On the next leg of the journey, the ships will destine for Jakarta and the Maldives.
The ships will later on be open to the general public, giving them an opportunity to gain knowledge about their working and functioning.
Both the ships will remain berthed for four days, during which a number of bilateral meetings and other activities have been chalked out.
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