The news appears to be back on the official site with the same old pictures, however the part about two planes come WVR, but there is no report of climbing and turning match or the plane was evicted. However, the prose is the same from previous report, just have a few paragraphs removed, very strange.
East China Sea Air Defense ID Zone
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The news appears to be back on the official site with the same old pictures, however the part about two planes come WVR, but there is no report of climbing and turning match or the plane was evicted. However, the prose is the same from previous report, just have a few paragraphs removed, very strange.
Yes I say ARH/BVR, meaning to specify that they do not have BVR active radar homing missiles.
Earlier in the post I mention they do have AIM-7 SARH missiles, which most people recognize as BVR capable (although I suppose I should've specified that as SARH/BVR for consistency's sake).
Like I said this is a lot of fun, happy New Year guys!
Japan already have the Wind Rises, China might as well have a Top Gun Sequel coming soon..
DaKai
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Japan already have the Wind Rises, China might as well have a Top Gun Sequel coming soon..
Wind Rises is somehow anti-war and left-wingish, if we are looking for a well-produced patriotic militarism propaganda about IJN warbirds, The Eternal Zero would be a better choice.
Anyway, China had already made 《冲天飞豹(Fight Bomb, 1999)》 and 《歼十出击(Sky Fighters J-10, 2011)》, but they are horrible...
Personally, I think 《长空比翼(A Pilot,1958)》 is the best Air Force Chinese movie so far...
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This new air defense zone seems to be where the action and party is in the region and any up and coming pilot would not want to miss the chance to strut their stuffs here.
I'm not advocating for war, but is good chance to put into practice all the hard years of training and chance to show who's the top guns in the air and got the better hardware. Hope to see in actual practice how air maneuvers between Flankers vs Eagles are use on the field not just on theory, who would gain the advantage in flight and how each system hardware try to gain advantage for themselves. A lot can be learn here by their military for Japanese on the Chinese air force capabilities and vice versa the Chinese to know whether their modernization is a success.
I'm not advocating for war, but is good chance to put into practice all the hard years of training and chance to show who's the top guns in the air and got the better hardware. Hope to see in actual practice how air maneuvers between Flankers vs Eagles are use on the field not just on theory, who would gain the advantage in flight and how each system hardware try to gain advantage for themselves. A lot can be learn here by their military for Japanese on the Chinese air force capabilities and vice versa the Chinese to know whether their modernization is a success.
SinoSoldier
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Is BVR technically within their reach if they use AWACS, though?
F-15s are not exactly the best counterpart for comparison with the Su-30MKK, which is more strike-oriented, especially when it comes to weapons integration and avionics. Japanese F-15 upgrades should be comparable to the J-11A and not quite on the same level as the J-11B yet.
Does their lack in quantity of the upgraded F-15 matter in small-scale situations in the ADZ, especially when ground support and tight territory hinders most large-scale incidents?
The AIM-7 is already a a BVR missile, the disadvantage is that it is SARH.
I'm not sure how AWACS would help in either situation.
For the purposes of this comparison they can be more or less amalgamated to the same level. Certainly once you factor in AEWC for both sides, the individual advantages of one incremental spec over another isn't going to matter that much.
Although I maintain that ARH missiles are still a big advantage over SARH missiles.
I'm not sure what you mean.
Wind Rises is somehow anti-war and left-wingish, if we are looking for a well-produced patriotic militarism propaganda about IJN warbirds, The Eternal Zero would be a better choice.
Anyway, China had already made 《冲天飞豹(Fight Bomb, 1999)》 and 《歼十出击(Sky Fighters J-10, 2011)》, but they are horrible...
Personally, I think 《长空比翼(A Pilot,1958)》 is the best Air Force Chinese movie so far...
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Those PLA movies are disgusting.
"Wind Rises" is actually a very good movie where its maker try to deliver a message that Japan CAN break and denounce its ugly and militarist past while same time honor the personal sacrifice and achievement of its people of that era .... WITH OUT resorting to resurrection of its ugly demons.
Blackstone
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Michael Swaine (Asia Studies, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace) has a new article on the ECS ADIZ, from China's perspective. Whether one agrees, disagrees, or a bit of both, it's a well written piece and a good read.
The article has too many pages to copy-paste, but here are some of his concluding remarks:
The article has too many pages to copy-paste, but here are some of his concluding remarks:
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