Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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AssassinsMace

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The US is use to one-sided scolding. The fact that Blinken and Sullivan called back the media after opening statements showed how shocked they were at the change in tactics by China which is the same tactics the US uses all the time. I see on the news the spin that China was playing to a domestic audience. Definitely the Biden Administration is handing out the talking points which means giving their spin because they know they looked bad. And Michael Bloomberg when running for President was chastised for saying that even in China the government is ultimately accountable to the people. He was hammered from both Republicans and Democrats because they argue in a dictatorship they don't care how their citizens feel. Now they're arguing Bloomberg's point for themselves here. And US politicians aren't playing to a domestic audience 100% of the time especially for Republicans ready to pounce on ever error in the Biden Administration? The reason why Blinken and Sullivan called back the media because as is it made the US look bad if they didn't respond.
 

foxmulder

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The US delegation came with bad faith. It is a waste of time to proceed. You can tell from this Chinese delegation press conference after the meetings that US simply listed some demands from their imaginary high ground :) and Chinese side was surprised and angry:

 

voyager1

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The US is use to one-sided scolding. The fact that Blinken and Sullivan called back the media after opening statements showed how shocked they were at the change in tactics by China which is the same tactics the US uses all the time. I see on the news the spin that China was playing to a domestic audience. Definitely the Biden Administration is handing out the talking points which means giving their spin because they know they looked bad. And Michael Bloomberg when running for President was chastised for saying that even in China the government is ultimately accountable to the people. He was hammered from both Republicans and Democrats because they argue in a dictatorship they don't care how their citizens feel. Now they're arguing Bloomberg's point for themselves here. And US politicians aren't playing to a domestic audience 100% of the time especially for Republicans ready to pounce on ever error in the Biden Administration? The reason why Blinken and Sullivan called back the media because as is it made the US look bad if they didn't respond.
I mean although meaningless, the opening statements show what is really happening.

You could almost see the desperation on Blinken's face. Not a good start from Blinken, who is negotiating from a "position of strength" (Lmao)

Yang truly fired on US corpse on that monologue. He called them weak, he basically called their Democratic system a failure, he pointed racism, and then he said to them that the US and the western world doesn't represent the UN (big big statement here for a multipolar world).
He was basically slapping them for 16 minutes straight.

I mean China dared to enter the Korean war when they were dirt poor to fight the US for their interests. Why do the US thinks that China now being infinitely stronger than that period, will back down from facing the US again...

In their dreams I say. This is why Mao, and Deng built China as it is now. Now it is Xi's responsibility to navigate this dangerous path in order for China to become a true world class Great Power. The US better understand this, because there is no way Xi is backing down.
 

voyager1

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The US delegation came with bad faith. It is a waste of time to proceed. You can tell from this Chinese delegation press conference after the meetings that US simply listed some demands from their imaginary high ground :) and Chinese side was surprised and angry:

So has the meeting fully ended or is there another round of discussions?

In either case, I wouldn't be too pessimistic, you saw that the "human rights" was only for the cameras, and on the end of the video you would notice, unless I am mistaken, that the US team said that they had "candid discussions on Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, and climate change".

So as you can see, these were expected important geopolitical issues that the 2 countries would discuss regardless of their differences.

Stonks on the climate change. Hopefully they reached an agreement on this issue.
 

AssassinsMace

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I'm a pessimist because the fact is right-wing Christians are dictating US China policy. China existing means Christianity is a lie. If Christians believe the Earth has only been around for a few thousand years, how is China the oldest continuing civilization at five thousand. Don't you think God would've mentioned his own creation? God didn't write the Bible. Mortals did. That's why no mention of China because they only wrote of the known world to them at the time. Yeah they'll spin today China is in the Bible under some other name but their hatred for China shows how their spin that China is mentioned in the Bible is not enough. They're not going to admit that the Bible was written by people because then people will reject it and Christianity ends. These zealots have to take over China and rewrite history or they have to destroy China in a primitive show that what they believe in is mightier.

Beijing better get that through their heads and stop believing somehow they can change the hearts of the Americans and start preparing sufficiently to counter economically and militarily the US and their allies.
 

SpicySichuan

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If you're referring to white anglos who believe they still own the world, such that a sitting anglo head of state went on live TV to bitch about a Chinese artist portraying accurate events of australian SAS death squad members murdering afghan children, then yes i'd say karma is a-coming and it looks real tasty.
Well you got to keep in mind that there is still a very loud segment of the Chinese population (intellectuals and businessmen) who believe in the supremacy of the Anglo-Saxon neoliberal democratic political culture. These are the folks who grew up in the 1980s (height of Reaganism and Thatcherism), suffered during the Cultural Revolution, and made some fortunes during the chaotic times of the 1990s, when China partially emulated the neoliberal economic model of Britain and the U.S. before moving their assets and family to overseas.

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