Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

plawolf

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97% generates antibodies does not mean 97% effective, you need sufficient neutralizing antibodies in each person.

Sinovac is right to quickly correct the lack of understanding on Indonesia’s part.

I think this shows the integrity of Sinovac, whereas Astrozeneca first tried to spin their fuck up with the half doses as a positive with a claimed 95% effective rate until they were catch out and forced to admit the error.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
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Iran’s top banker says US blocking COVID-19 vaccine purchase

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US sanctions on Iran are still on and Iran can't purchase vaccines because they're blocked out of SWIFT. Really China and Iran should work on a currency swap and supply Iran with Chinese vaccines. Not like Pfizer and Moderna are within reach for Iran, so is Oxford probably. China's are also cheaper and effective
I think this is only Iran's move to put spot-light on the "US blockade is inhumane". For that purpose I agree with Iranians.

But the reality is that, Iran and China have arrangement of trading in their respective currencies bypassing USD. For example, China did not stop buying Iranian oil to this day. So I don't see a problem for Iran to acquire Chinese vaccines or anything to combat COVID-19.
 

horse

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This kind of means that China has won the vaccine race.

Not only has China produced a viable vaccine for Covid-19, it is poised to do mass vaccinations, all in the developing world, simply because the coronavirus outbreak is under control in China.

The truth wins, not propaganda.

Where are the mass vaccinations going to happen first and with which vaccine?

It is not in the west.

Hence, we are subjected to a propaganda shitstorm from Liberal media.

Blacks lives do not matter, and neither does whatever happens in the developing world. The way to win hearts and minds!

:oops: :cool:
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I think this is only Iran's move to put spot-light on the "US blockade is inhumane". For that purpose I agree with Iranians.

But the reality is that, Iran and China have arrangement of trading in their respective currencies bypassing USD. For example, China did not stop buying Iranian oil to this day. So I don't see a problem for Iran to acquire Chinese vaccines or anything to combat COVID-19.

I think for sure that Iran is using this as an opportunity to highlight the impact of American sanctions, but I think if you were in Iran’s shoes, you would also want at least the option of buying some of the vaccines from other countries to diversify your portfolio and not have all your eggs in one basket.

China and Iran have direct currency agreements, but if Iran wants to buy vaccines from Europe, they will need bank accounts that can trade with EU banks unless they want to be sending literal plane loads of money around, which to be honest, they probably don’t have on hand given how long American sanctions have been in place eating into their foreign reserves.
 

supersnoop

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You're right. The alphabetical order follows the time progression of the mutation.

That was how the different variants of the virus were named in one of the earlier studies of the virus genome. Each of the variants (A, B, C ...) actually represents a group of the virus subvariants which is only different from each other by one to a few mutations.

This way, variant A in China maybe just one or two mutations away from let's say the variant A in Australia.

I think there is one idea that is not particularly well publicized, whether the virus had weakly established itself in a place like Central Asia/Middle East which doesn’t have huge population densities and not always well developed. Since the travel traffic is not huge, it can account for the sporadic early virus detected in Europe.

Since the populations are not huge, you don’t see the same kind of mass deaths and the older population is smaller (due to lower life expectancy).

It could also explain how the virus wasn’t spreading rampantly in March 2019 in Spain or Italy or whenever they say it was detected in sewage samples.

We know the lack of mass deaths in China outside Wuhan and low infection rates in overseas Chinese communities means the spread was pretty contained. Similarly, we should apply that same logic to Europe (unlikely to be strongly in the wild there in 2019).

Although I am loathe to say it, but the western media is right to call out the Chinese media for trying to pin it on Europe. Two wrongs do not make a right. Part of the reason it is such a mess is because people seem to no longer follow the facts.
 
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