solarz
Brigadier
LOL, that article is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for "advantages".
So far, the American vaccines seem more geared toward playing the stock market than fighting the virus.
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LOL, that article is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for "advantages".
So far, the American vaccines seem more geared toward playing the stock market than fighting the virus.
I bought from Ali Express It was a N95 rated mask and came with 5 replacement filters.$23 for a single mask?
I'm not sure I would want to spray disinfectant on my mask. You breathe through that thing, and you're likely to breathe in the disinfectant too.
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This is actually quite true and I’ve been feeling so ever since the pandemic started in the U.S. and Republicans began talking about sacrificing lives for the American economy. It makes a very powerful argument why China should increase the size of its nuclear arsenal. The old rationale was that the American establishment would not be willing to risk LA or NY to launch a nuclear strike on China. I think it’s clear now that‘s a wrong assumption. Mutually assured destruction is the only effective deterrence.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Nah, the Americans only don’t care about Covid deaths because those are overwhelmingly from poor and ethnic minority segments of US society, with only the older wealthy elites at moderate risk.
America has never really cared about dead Americans so long as the ones dying are the underclasses. Vietnam only generated so much opposition because the draft system meant the children of the elites were also dying.
Fast forward to later wars where it was again mostly the poor and coloured citizens who were dying in American wars and the American public went right back to zero-fucks-given mode, and those who did care about US combat deaths outside their immediate family and friendship circles mostly only did so because that was seen as a blow against their idea of American exceptionalism and military dominance. If Americans actually cared about their soldiers for the sake of their soldiers, the VA would not be the joke that it is, and far far better funded to effectively care for America’s war wounded.
Lonza will produce ingredients within Moderna's vaccine, formally called mRNA-1273, in facilities in the U.S. and Switzerland, where it is headquartered. Company Chairman Albert Baehny told CNBC about the "big challenges" facing drugmakers like his when it comes to scaling up production.
"We can only produce more than 500 million doses a year if we install additional manufacturing lines, so it is clear that we need additional investments in installation if we want to produce more than 500 million (per year)”
“The second challenge is to find the people. For each manufacturing line you need 60-70 educated persons. We’ve installed four manufacturing lines so you have to identify and train these people,” he said.
And here lies the issue with mRNA vaccines
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I was just listening to the radio, and the BBC’s resident statistics expert Tim Hartford was taking questions on the Pfizer vaccine, and it’s pretty interesting the sheer number of caveats he threw in about his answers being based on taking the press announcement/marketing release from the companies at face value. It is blatantly clear he holds massive reservations about the validity of the findings, most likely due to the same reasons a lot of us are dubious - the tiny sample size of infected, and short timeframe they allowed for testing before announcing preliminary results.
It should also be noted that what is not covered by all the self-congratulatory puff pieces on these vaccines in the western MSM is the fact that these vaccines are not done with their phase 3 trials.
Something else to note is the higher effective rate of the Pfizer vaccine on 65+ than then overall population total. That’s being sold as proof of how wonderful this vaccine is by the western MSM, but flies in the fact of decades of established scientific and medical observations that vaccines loose effectiveness as people age, due to their weakening immune system.
So what is more likely, that these vaccines are able to break the rules of aging itself, or maybe the tiny data set is creating distortions that would have been evened out with a proper sample size?
It should also be noted that what is not covered by all the self-congratulatory puff pieces on these vaccines in the western MSM is the fact that these vaccines are not done with their phase 3 trials.
Something else to note is the higher effective rate of the Pfizer vaccine on 65+ than then overall population total. That’s being sold as proof of how wonderful this vaccine is by the western MSM, but flies in the fact of decades of established scientific and medical observations that vaccines loose effectiveness as people age, due to their weakening immune system.
So what is more likely, that these vaccines are able to break the rules of aging itself, or maybe the tiny data set is creating distortions that would have been evened out with a proper sample size?
Intrepid
Major
This is a look at the situation in intensive care medicine in Germany. The proportion of Covid-19 patients is red, orange shows all other intensive care patients, dark gray the available free beds and light gray the reserve that can still be activated:
As the proportion of Covid 19 patients increases, the total number of beds decreases. On the one hand, because Covid-19 patients tie up more nursing staff. On the other hand, because nursing staff become infected themselves (not necessarily in the hospital, but also at home and in their free time) and then fail. And because the number of beds is determined more precisely the closer the moment approaches when the last bed is needed. German hospitals receive financial compensation for free beds. I assume that as long as proof does not have to be provided that the beds reported as vacant actually exist, more vacant beds will be reported.
When patients have to be transported across Germany to be distributed to only a few remaining free beds, the situation begins to get ugly. Then we get Belgian or Swedish conditions, where severe Covid 19 cases no longer even get to the hospital but have to die in the nursing homes.
As the proportion of Covid 19 patients increases, the total number of beds decreases. On the one hand, because Covid-19 patients tie up more nursing staff. On the other hand, because nursing staff become infected themselves (not necessarily in the hospital, but also at home and in their free time) and then fail. And because the number of beds is determined more precisely the closer the moment approaches when the last bed is needed. German hospitals receive financial compensation for free beds. I assume that as long as proof does not have to be provided that the beds reported as vacant actually exist, more vacant beds will be reported.
When patients have to be transported across Germany to be distributed to only a few remaining free beds, the situation begins to get ugly. Then we get Belgian or Swedish conditions, where severe Covid 19 cases no longer even get to the hospital but have to die in the nursing homes.
Intrepid
Major
We discussed this months ago.