Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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Shaolian

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If we are using our face masks sloppily, then yes, it could pose an infection risk to us. But if almost everyone is wearing one when going outside of homes, then the infection is stopped practically on the lips of the infected.

Herein lies the magic of why most East and Southeast Asian countries that has a more collective responsible culture faring far better than the culturally individualistic Western world.

And if laws need to be enacted to take care of the remaining selfish citizens to force them to wear masks outdoors, then so be it.
 
supercat

supercat

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localizer said:
They can tolerate old and minorities dying for sure.
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Exactly, getting rid of those old pensioners will obviously relieve the burden for Social Security and future generations ;)! The whole article reads like Lu Xun's "The True Story of Ah Q".

In other news, Sinavac's vaccine can induce immunity quickly and can be stored in refrigerator temperature (2-8 degree Celsius) for 3 years:
Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine induces quick immune response: study
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vesicles

vesicles

Colonel
plawolf said:
I think it is also incorrect to try to take how the virus spread in China in winter and assume it would have followed the same trend in summer.

If covid19 started in Europe in March19, then a lot of early case would have been in spring, and could have easily be chalked off as seasonal flu to start with.

Given the lower population density in Europe, it could be that by the time it achieve much in the way of numbers of infections, it was already summer, which helped to naturally suppress the spread and effects of the virus. Just look at the death rates worldwide over the summer months compared to the initial surge.
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Please keep in mind that the pandemic in the US started in April and May and plateaued in July and August. Especially here in Texas, where we have 100 deg F and 100% humidity in July and August, our worst month of the pandemic was in the hottest month in summer when we had 15,000 cases in a single day in Texas alone. And this was after almost a month and half of lockdowns in most major cities in Texas. And Texas is very sparsely populated. This particular coronavirus doesn’t care about summer too much.

Also, the first wave of the pandemic overwhelmed hospitals in Europe in March to May and June 2020. This would be the same period in 2019, when you assume the virus somehow become a lame duck in Europe even without any kind of human intervention.

Also, about the assumption that somehow the virus acquired a crazy mutation to be super contagious when it got to Wuhan. So far, I haven’t heard anything about any significant genomic differences between the European strains detected in 2019 and the Chinese strains detected in 2020. Further, mutations don’t necessarily mean changing function. It’s been almost a year since the virus was first detected in Wuhan. Genomic analyses have shown that the virus has undergone many mutations. None of the new mutations have made the virus any more or less contagious. Although some have hypothesized that certain mutations have changed how the virus behaves, they lack concrete evidence to support their hypothesis. So pretty much the virus has stayed the same all this time. What are the chances that the virus made a huge mutation when it got to Wuhan? Slim to none. Again, we have no evidence that the European strains detected in 2019 have been any different than the Chinese ones.

We need to discuss this based on actual data, not some baseless guesses.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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I think society is having a brain fart. It's so chaotic just to get basic information. I know someone who is a hypochondriac and believes in the worse case scenario about COVID-19. This person thinks you're as good as dead if you catch it. And I tell this person if there are already 10 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US, how come we don't hear about 10 million people dead? Of course this person ignores common sense. I try to avoid this person because everyone around has to be as paranoid and take precautions as this person does. I've come to the conclusion this person isn't as afraid of COVID-19. This person is using it as an excuse. Hoarders have become a thing in the last decade. What's the motive of a hoarder? It's not because they like living around garbage. Hoarders are control freaks. Hoarding is the world they created that they know they can control. If they have family members, they're forcing their family members to live in their world. This person I was talking about before... a hoarder. That's what's happening with COVID-19. Everyone is trying to force everyone into their angle of it and that's why it's so confusing and chaotic just to get a straight answer.

Localizer said he came across a "redneck" that treated him like he were the plague. These are the people claiming it's a hoax. So why would he be afraid? Maybe because he's an azzhole loyal to the Republicans following the party line who claim it's a hoax and knowingly perpetuates a lie so everyone else doesn't take it seriously and get infected. Trump admitted that he didn't take COVID-19 seriously because he thought Democratic areas of the US were going to be infected the most. Early on the alt-right said they were going to get infected and go to leftist parts of the US to infect everyone. The right-wing knows it's serious. They're just being a b*tch about it. That's why there's all this chaos because everyone has their sociopathic agendas and not just Republican versus Democrat. And I wouldn't be surprised if that mink story is going to turn out to be nothing and it was just some guy in Sweden who wanted some attention. And they expect China to follow their way blindly? They don't care if they're wrong. It's a power thing. They just want to see China obey because then they know they're the ones in power.
 
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emblem21

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Somehow, I feel my brain cells die reading that. No one would ever consider the ability to take casualties a victory in anyway, (unless you are a crazy red neck living in the basement). This proves without a shadow of a doubt that China respects human rights more then America has ever done ever. China gave the virus there everything to fight the virus for the sake of saving China, the USA gave nothing but platitudes and excuses to not fight the hard fight and for some odd reason for a premier democracy in the world is now number one in casualties. If not for the media, US military and there nukes, China would have put the USA in their place years ago and yet sooner or later, even that is going to go down given that even the USA military seems to not care if there soldiers end up dead or not and the media is becoming less and less trusted by the day.
 
solarz

solarz

Brigadier
B.I.B. said:
We have a few cans of Australian made aerosol can disinfectant called 'Quest', it's designed to spray on any clothing / and we spray the masks from time to time. I paid $23US for the mask from China. Im not throwing mine away after a few minutes use.
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$23 for a single mask? :eek:

I'm not sure I would want to spray disinfectant on my mask. You breathe through that thing, and you're likely to breathe in the disinfectant too.
 
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