Disgusting cartoon!
Blaming China and Chinese for this horrid covid19
I used to respect the Economist in the past.
Not now anymore!
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Disgusting cartoon!
Blaming China and Chinese for this horrid covid19
I used to respect the Economist in the past.
Not now anymore!
When China is under control, do you guys think China will send personnel and equipment to other hotspots?
Just wonder what ya'll bet on gov't will do.
I'm against it because we need to restart our industries, let our people rest, and then we can think about helping others.
Just wonder what ya'll bet on gov't will do.
I'm against it because we need to restart our industries, let our people rest, and then we can think about helping others.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
The economist has always been a pro-US propaganda tool.
Their authors sound more intelligent due to better education, but their blatant bias makes their analysis suspect at best and they only get a good rep because many people of influence in western nations reads them.
That means even when their analysis is totally BS, if they can convince enough such powerful people to believe it, that is often enough to shape markets enough to make their predictions a self fulfilling prophecy. Which is what makes it such an effective propaganda tool.
However, that trick only works with soft, opinion based matters, and it just doesn’t fly when it comes to hard scientific realities.
COVID19 doesn’t care about spin or propaganda lies. You cannot trick it into behave differently no matter how convincing and ‘logical’ sounding your argument, and that is where western analysis falls down hard these days.
All western MSM ‘experts’ are great at shaping opinion but are mostly quite shite in the field they are actually supposed to excel in. Because surprise surprise, the western MSM cares far more about ‘optics’ than reality.
True experts tend to get invited once and then blacklisted when they give truthful answers to questions that goes against western MSM party line mandated responses. That selection process means only intellectual prostitutes who ‘gets the hint’ and say only what MSM bosses want them to say by following the tone of the highly loaded and leading questions of the hosts gets invited back.
In the age of Trump, this emperor’s-new-clothes attitude seems to also be rampantly infecting America’s official agencies, as such, I hold little hope of America being able to do anything meaningful to even slow down this virus at a national level.
Italy might be on the mend. They wasted time and acted too late, but at least they are following the example of the only country that has actually achieved results in slamming the breaks on COVID19 spread.
It will get a lot worse for Italy before it gets better, but what their government is doing will still save a lot of lives. The same could not be said of the responses of governments like the US or UK, who are literally prioritising profit over lives right now.
As with anything nowadays, you gotta be willing to bet your own money on your position. Otherwise its just bullshit.
China must primarily work in China own self interest.
You seen the numbers of new cases in China came from infections outside China.
China cannot cannot take a break as infections outside China will get back into China.
For China own sake, China must help other countries ASAP.
Jura The idiot
General
according to a mainstream Polish server (the link just to show I didn't make it up: ) Frau Merkel said about two-thirds (between 60 and 70 percents) of the German population would get infected, so if nothing got lost in translation, I'd ask her if it means one million Germans is going to get killed?
anyone knowledgeable willing to comment on Germany situation, bitte:
anyone knowledgeable willing to comment on Germany situation, bitte:
From a cold, dispassionate perspective - China would greatly benefit on both reputation and financially from sending personnel and equipment to virus stricken countries. The country already mass manufactures many of the protective gear types needed against the virus. In the event of a return, an expanded production capability would be better able to supply the needed volumes. Exporting the extra production in the meantime should simply cover the costs alone. We should expect a new form of the virus to pop up soon (6th gen?) and our personnel can retain up-to-date knowledge by monitoring hotspots.
Both the EU/US are clearly incapable of handling this mess alone (see PPE export restrictions) and do want help in the former case at least. It benefits no one to have another repeat when the virus returns to China via a missed vector.
The world of tomorrow does not have to be a pale mirror of the one of the last century. I’ve always thought that the high road should be taken here. By helping others in their time of need they might just realise how badly they’ve been lied to. Ungratefulness be damned.
I know sampling all 11million people in Wuhan is impossible, but it isn't required.
It's been some time since statistics class, but let's assume a worst case scenario which requires a confidence interval of 1, and a confidence level of 99%
You only need a **truly random** sample of 16616 people in Wuhan to determine the overall infection rate.
I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus.
I'm asking because in the event of a serious outbreak, all countries don't have sufficient isolation facilities or equipment for their medical staff.
So my understanding is that many doctors and nurses (in the real world) are likely to be continually exposed to low levels of COVID-19 due to the nature of their work. That is what we saw initially in Wuhan.
So suppose a doctor or nurse has previously contracted COVID-19 and fully recovered.
And if they were continually exposed to low levels of virus, could they be expected to remain immune to that particular strain?
Agreed.
Now that new cases in China have almost dropped to zero and has an effective surveillance in operation, China should have a surplus of manufacturing capacity for COVID-19 test kits for example.
But if I look at the infection curves of countries in Europe and the USA, there are going to be huge outbreaks soon.
And I would find it incredible if huge outbreaks didn't occur in many other (poorer) countries as well.
So my analysis is that in 1 year's time- a lot of people in the USA and Europe are going to be angry at China.
But they will also be angry at the incompetence of their own governments, when compared to the actions of the Chinese government.
