supercat
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What's the point? Hong Kong's own study indicates that 3 doses of Sinovac vaccine is about as effective as 3 doses of mRNA vaccine:
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You still haven't responded to my last post and I'm just perplexed why you're so fanatical about this issue. Dude, look at what's going on. Yes there was panic originally when infections started spiraling, but by and large most Chinese people as long as they've gotten vaxxed have gotten over the sickness pretty quickly.
Quickie
Colonel
" ....., instead of testing a hundred times. "
I have commented on this point a number of times already.
Are the cycles of constant testings and lockdowns as useless as the Western MSM is trying to portray?
It has saved millions of lives in China in the past 3 pandemic years while it tried to develop new solutions/vaccines and vaccinate the whole of the population although there were some hiccups with some older people. So much has been said that the policy is useless as it's in conflict with the need to get natural immunity but in China, natural immunities will only come after most of the people have been vaccinated unlike in Western countries where natural immunities have been seemingly promoted even while most of the population were unvaccinated.
A possibly unforeseen outcome of the Covid Zero policy, and a very positive one at that, is possibly how the policy has caused the pandemic to evolve into a much milder version of it in China.
I have commented on this on how a much milder version of the pandemic can possibly come about in China.
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" .... In this sense, lockdown is useful since it's the most virulent variant of the virus that gets the most attention and gets contained through quarantine and lockdown measures as opposed to a virus variant that causes mostly asymptomatic or mild symptoms that may go unnoticed. "
And if I may add to the end of the sentence. : " and grow and remain in the population. "
supercat
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I think it's a given that China's zero-COVID policy bought time for China to face a less virulent variant that evolved over the past 3 years.
Population and vaccination in China as of 12/13/2022:
- 60-79 yo: total ~267 million, fully vaccinated: ~90%, not fully vaccinated: ~26.7 million
- 80 yo and over: total ~32 m, fully vaccinated: ~77%, not fully vaccinated: ~ 7.36 million
Daily vaccine doses given in China:
- 12/17/2022: 0.944 million
- 12/16/2022: 1.300 million
- 12/15/2022: 1.403 million
- 12/14/2022: 1.479 million
- 12/13/2022: 1.433 million
- 12/12/2022: 1.252 million
Quickie
Colonel
I meant to say a milder version of the virus that mutates and comes to being in China itself (as a result of the environmental conditions in China resulting from Covid Zero policy).
I'm not sure though how different the Omicron variants in China are from those outsides of the country.
Omicron isn't risk free even to people of moderate age. Posting because she was a public figure.
The so called mortality rate of Omicron is similar to cold is a misconception. 0.01% mortality rate is achieved only after 3 doses of vaccines and within a 6 months monitor period after a recent vaccination. It is unlikely your whole 60s or above population got vaccinated with 3 doses. In addition, it is unknown the duration of protection against deaths from prior vaccination and infections. That's why 0.01% mortality rate is an optimal outcome not realistically possible to achieve. Although after all those most vulnerable people got killed off or survived after a few waves, the mortality rate would eventually go down to 0.01% or less.
Maybe the silver lining is that the elders in China seems to have vaccinated quite late compared to those in North America and Europe. China focused early vaccination efforts on the younger populations. While my family in Canada got our 3rd shot last December, my grandparents (88 and 93 year old) in China only got their 3rd shot back in August.
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