Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Han Patriot

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A Chinese mRNA vaccine has already been approved in Indonesia. This baffles you when they refuse to utilize their own mRNA vaccine.

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Because my uncle got cancer 1 month after 2nd dose of Pfizer vaccine. GMO food is banned in China, so GMO LIVE vaccine is too. It's not because we don't have the technology, it's because our regulators don't know what will happen 5 years down the road.
 

Overseaschinese

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Is there any number from China about the vaccination rate between urban and rural area from the eldery´s?
In Germany we have over 85 percent with the third dose, with the age over 60.
 

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Biscuits

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Because my uncle got cancer 1 month after 2nd dose of Pfizer vaccine. GMO food is banned in China, so GMO LIVE vaccine is too. It's not because we don't have the technology, it's because our regulators don't know what will happen 5 years down the road.
Medically speaking such a complication would not happen due to vaccine. It was simply bad luck.

The concerns of allowing the Pfizer vaccine for use mostly boils down to efficiency concerns and nothing else.

There is no proof that the Pfizer vaccine has greater or unusual side effects, although the moderna one does, hence it is not preferred for old individuals, yet these are heart disease complications, not ones related to cancer.

There is no thing such as "GMO vaccine", all vaccines use gene modification. For Sinovac vaccine, it uses quite literally a genetically modified whole covid virus which has its harmful parts removed, whereas for Pfizer vaccine it uses a mimicked sequence of the body's own response against a part of covid antigen. In that regard, the latter can be seen as more "natural" as far as vaccines go, but we are not striving for a more natural response but rather a more effective one. And proven by number of covid cases as well as select studies, one can see that the former has significant advantages.
 

henrik

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Are you in China? I just had dinner in a friggin hotpot restaurant with no masks on. Lolol. Seriously man.

In China, can you take the subway or enter a shopping mall without a face masks?
People are now watching the World Cup in crowded stadiums, with no face masks at all. In China, you are still queuing up for the next covid test, which does not increase your anti-bodies.
 

supercat

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In China, can you take the subway or enter a shopping mall without a face masks?
People are now watching the World Cup in crowded stadiums, with no face masks at all. In China, you are still queuing up for the next covid test, which does not increase your anti-bodies.
I think China needs a mask mandate, better with KN95 mask.

China's vaccination goals before the end of 2022:

A brief explanation of the 20 new measures:
 

SteelBird

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Just to add on a bit.

Today's stats for Cambodia at
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It had turned out to be zero the many times I randomly check the stats at the site, so this could be for months already. I'm not sure how open, Cambodia is to international tourists presently and the kind of restrictions.

Cambodia

28-Day: 90 | 0

Totals: 138,099 | 3,056
You should ask me that question.

First of all, Cambodia reports between 0 to 10 new cases daily; However, this does not represent all cases because some treat the disease themselves at home and do not report to authority. Secondly, the country is now completely open to international traveler. You don't even have to declare your vaccination at entry points. Finally, our daily life has returned to as normal as possible. In open area, it's up to you to wear a facemask or not but in closed area, the guards will give you a mask if you come in with bare face.
 

Han Patriot

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Medically speaking such a complication would not happen due to vaccine. It was simply bad luck.

The concerns of allowing the Pfizer vaccine for use mostly boils down to efficiency concerns and nothing else.

There is no proof that the Pfizer vaccine has greater or unusual side effects, although the moderna one does, hence it is not preferred for old individuals, yet these are heart disease complications, not ones related to cancer.

There is no thing such as "GMO vaccine", all vaccines use gene modification. For Sinovac vaccine, it uses quite literally a genetically modified whole covid virus which has its harmful parts removed, whereas for Pfizer vaccine it uses a mimicked sequence of the body's own response against a part of covid antigen. In that regard, the latter can be seen as more "natural" as far as vaccines go, but we are not striving for a more natural response but rather a more effective one. And proven by number of covid cases as well as select studies, one can see that the former has significant advantages.
I think you need to read more on how vaccines are made. Please read the paper from Lund University. Chinese vaccines are not genetically modified, it is your good old vaccine created by using weakened viruses, no part of that virus dna was modified. The viruses are mostly inactive viruses aka dead viruses, not live Mrna vaccine which can mutate into DNA.
 

Han Patriot

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In China, can you take the subway or enter a shopping mall without a face masks?
People are now watching the World Cup in crowded stadiums, with no face masks at all. In China, you are still queuing up for the next covid test, which does not increase your anti-bodies.
Metro is a must, but people enter with a mask then take it off 5 secs later, there is NO enforcement. Same with malls. Mask wearing is recommended not forced, only certain mall management force. Just common sense dude, a few months ago, i saw alot of westeeners wearing masks while in the office, i was laughing, it doesn't work.

I just came back from a crowded bar last night, nobody is wearing masks my friend, and yes we were watching world cup looking at maskless spectatators in the tv too, you seriously think Chinese are stupid? Fckers in CNN hype shit up and lie.
 

Quickie

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In China, can you take the subway or enter a shopping mall without a face masks?
People are now watching the World Cup in crowded stadiums, with no face masks at all. In China, you are still queuing up for the next covid test, which does not increase your anti-bodies.

Metro is a must, but people enter with a mask then take it off 5 secs later, there is NO enforcement. Same with malls. Mask wearing is recommended not forced, only certain mall management force. Just common sense dude, a few months ago, i saw alot of westeeners wearing masks while in the office, i was laughing, it doesn't work.

I just came back from a crowded bar last night, nobody is wearing masks my friend, and yes we were watching world cup looking at maskless spectatators in the tv too, you seriously think Chinese are stupid? Fckers in CNN hype shit up and lie.

Don't know why most people in Western countries are so antagonistic to wearing masks.

The common knowledge is wearing masks help to prevent infection, which is quite meaningless I guess for those in the West who are so game on getting natural immunity.

I will add that wearing a mask will help to reduce the virus load when you do get infected and end up getting a mild infection of the virus instead of a serious one or one that can cause fatality.
 
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