Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Petrolicious88]

My friend, i am in China now, in Shanghai, the worst lockdown was in Shanghai for 2.5 months to 3 months. After that, there were no more draconian lockdowns except small affected areas. Even at its peak, less than 1% of China was under quarantine. The problem is not lockdown but inconveniences for migrant workers who want to travel home, whenever you come from a high infection area, you need to quarantine 5 days.

Then we need not worry about lockdown fatigue. Continue policy as is.

 

[canniBUS]

In the US, about 70% got two doses of vaccines. That is why they cannot contain covid. In China, they could have done much better with over 90% vaccinations with mRNA vaccines. All these repeated testing and strange lockdowns is not going to increase anti-bodies. You need more vaccine boosters.

University of Hong Kong has research showing 2 doses of mRNA vaccines are more effective than 3 doses of Sinovac.
Sinovac is still effective, but you need more boosters.

I don't know why you are shilling so hard for mRNA vaccines, they are inferior to all other types of vaccines be they traditional dead virus vaccines, conjugate vaccines, protein subunit vaccines, or viral-vector vaccines.

 

[KYli]

In the US, about 70% got two doses of vaccines. That is why they cannot contain covid. In China, they could have done much better with over 90% vaccinations with mRNA vaccines. All these repeated testing and strange lockdowns is not going to increase anti-bodies. You need more vaccine boosters.

University of Hong Kong has research showing 2 doses of mRNA vaccines are more effective than 3 doses of Sinovac.
Sinovac is still effective, but you need more boosters.

University of HK also shows that 3 doses of Sinovac offer the same protection as 3 doses of mRNa vaccines. After 3 doses, all types of covid vaccines offer the same protection. What is the point of using mRNA when it didn't offer better protection. Any additional dose after 3 doses only offer 2-3 months of extra protection. No nation is going to make their citizens taking vaccine every 3 months. It isn't doable and could even cause immune crisis.

So any vaccine boosters are only useful for the first big wave to lower hospitalizations and deaths. After the first big wave, any additional boosters are just offered very limited benefits for a very small percentage of people.

Testings and lockdown lower the spread of covid so the health care system won't collapse. HK, Japan, and Taiwan health system collapsed during their first big wave even with high vaccination rate. HK had 8 thousands deaths which means China would have 1.6 millions deaths if its health care system collapsed like HK did.

Your prejudice is blinded you from seeing reasons why testings and lockdowns are important even if China decided to reopen. It would take at least 6-9 months and 2 big waves of covid for any country to get some breaks from covid. Mostly due to the fact that the most vulnerable have died and remains have been both vaccinated and some sort of natural immunity.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

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[henrik]

University of HK also shows that 3 doses of Sinovac offer the same protection as 3 doses of mRNa vaccines. After 3 doses, all types of covid vaccines offer the same protection. What is the point of using mRNA when it didn't offer better protection. Any additional dose after 3 doses only offer 2-3 months of extra protection. No nation is going to make their citizens taking vaccine every 3 months. It isn't doable and could even cause immune crisis.

So any vaccine boosters are only useful for the first big wave to lower hospitalizations and deaths. After the first big wave, any additional boosters are just offered very limited benefits for a very small percentage of people.

Testings and lockdown lower the spread of covid so the health care system won't collapse. HK, Japan, and Taiwan health system collapsed during their first big wave even with high vaccination rate. HK had 8 thousands deaths which means China would have 1.6 millions deaths if its health care system collapsed like HK did.

Your prejudice is blinded you from seeing reasons why testings and lockdowns are important even if China decided to reopen. It would take at least 6-9 months and 2 big waves of covid for any country to get some breaks from covid. Mostly due to the fact that the most vulnerable have died and remains have been both vaccinated and some sort of natural immunity.

You need booster every 6 months. No one is saying you need every 3 months. Taking an updated booster every 6-9 months is a lot more effective than going to your neighborhood testing center every couple of days.

Now with the mask mandate over 2 years, most people in China do not even have the flu anti-bodies. In addition to covid vaccines, most would need the flu vaccines as well.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

No, neither were the draconian lockdowns Chinese people faced over the last 6 months to a year. Where is the middle ground. For most Americans their lives are starting to return to prepandemic normal, and they are now in a better place than they were a year ago.

For most Americans? Who and where did you get this nugget of facts from? Youtube? Your neighbor?

 

[Godzilla]

You need booster every 6 months. No one is saying you need every 3 months. Taking an updated booster every 6-9 months is a lot more effective than going to your neighborhood testing center every couple of days.

Now with the mask mandate over 2 years, most people in China do not even have the flu anti-bodies. In addition to covid vaccines, most would need the flu vaccines as well.

Flu vaccines are useless lol. I get the jab every year and I fall for it every year lol. The flu was bad this winter in Australia, and our whole family had the shot, and the whole family got sick for weeks with the flu... then moved to the US and got the flu jab again in prep for the northern winter, and guess what? got hit by Flu again, HARD. (Strain A, lol we got tested cause scared of covid).
Not to say I won't continue to get the flu jab, but these crap aint magically shields that makes u invincible.... so you should stop pretending that it is.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

You need booster every 6 months. No one is saying you need every 3 months. Taking an updated booster every 6-9 months is a lot more effective than going to your neighborhood testing center every couple of days.

Now with the mask mandate over 2 years, most people in China do not even have the flu anti-bodies. In addition to covid vaccines, most would need the flu vaccines as well.

Man, you really need to shut the hell up with your constant shilling for MRnA vaccines because study after study showed what you've been selling is a total fabrication, yet like a snake oil salesman and Charlatan you keep popping up with the same unscientific crackpot talking point.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Flu vaccines are useless lol. I get the jab every year and I fall for it every year lol. The flu was bad this winter in Australia, and our whole family had the shot, and the whole family got sick for weeks with the flu... then moved to the US and got the flu jab again in prep for the northern winter, and guess what? got hit by Flu again, HARD. (Strain A, lol we got tested cause scared of covid).
Not to say I won't continue to get the flu jab, but these crap aint magically shields that makes u invincible.... so you should stop pretending that it is.

Stay safe and stay healthy as much as possible. Flu strain is apparently going around not only in the U. S. but also in Canada.

 

[Quickie]

Just to add on a bit.

Today's stats for Cambodia at

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It had turned out to be zero the many times I randomly check the stats at the site, so this could be for months already. I'm not sure how open, Cambodia is to international tourists presently and the kind of restrictions.

Cambodia

28-Day: 90 | 0

Totals: 138,099 | 3,056