Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

TongHua

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Omicron vaccine coming out in Sept for Australia too. Been approved recently, outside of UK and US, I think Aus is one of the first to approve it. I doubt many will get it though, partly cuz it's a new vaccine but also people just dun care anymore.

These vaccines make a lot of antibodies in the blood but little antibody in mucosa therefore they don't do much to prevent infection and transmission. The blood protects vital organs.
 

TongHua

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The only way to beat this virus is to develop a silver bullet from the medical standpoint. This task is of the upmost importance, more important than EUV for semiconductors and 095 subs for defense because as long as zero covid persists, China's economic growth will be substantially muted.

Then the only choice is the abandon 0 covid policy. No country does it other than China. Covid is permanent in every country except China unless China stops 0 covid policy.
 

56860

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Then the only choice is the abandon 0 covid policy. No country does it other than China. Covid is permanent in every country except China unless China stops 0 covid policy.
In a perfect world there would be an off the shelf medical solution and zero covid can be dropped, but we haven't reached that point yet. Until that happens we will unfortunately have to swallow economic losses. The human and economic cost of dropping zero covid would likely outweigh restrictions. Ask yourself how many working age people would drop out of the workforce either due to illness/death, or at the very least suffer declines in productivity. It's hard to accurately quantify but for a manufacturing powerhouse like China the loss would be massive.
 

TongHua

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I don't think covid is as bad as Chinese make it seem to be. I've had covid 3 times over the past year and all 3 times were completely no symptom and I'm 38. So there's that. Even if China drops 0 covid now, I doubt there would be many deaths. Keep in mind in the West the deaths are way over counted. They counted anyone who died within 30 days of testing covid positive as a covid death. The vast majority of these death were due to cancer or things like accidents. The mean age of covid death of 80+ in the West, which means they would have died anyway with or without covid.
 

Coalescence

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Wow. Ontario is on a roll. The good news is as Omi takes over, hospitalizations down, ICU down, deaths down.
Ontario positivity falling like a rock. Down to 11.3% after ditching mask and restrictions such as vaccine passport and capacity limit in stores.
Interestingly, Ontario abolished mandatory 5 day isolation rule for people who test positive with covid. They now class it the same level as other common cold viruses.
I've noticed a suspicious pattern of this user who:
1. Post Covid news related to Ontario in this thread
2. Put their location as Canada, Kitchener which is located in Ontario
3. Post mostly in Ukraine War Thread and Covid thread.

If you're indeed the same user, I have only one question. What happened to the Yommie account, did you lost your password or something?
 

56860

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I've noticed a suspicious pattern of this user who:
1. Post Covid news related to Ontario in this thread
2. Put their location as Canada, Kitchener which is located in Ontario
3. Post mostly in Ukraine War Thread and Covid thread.

If you're indeed the same user, I have only one question. What happened to the Yommie account, did you lost your password or something?
Thanks for pointing that out. Straight onto ignore.
 

TongHua

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This 0 covid policy is not sustainable. 10 years from now and Xi still haven't left China. 10 years from now China is still locking down cities left and right. It is a political decision by the CCP. CCP cannot handle anything that is not perfect. The world is not perfect. Democratic countries accept the fact the world is not perfect. Communist countries cannot accept the fact the world is not perfect. This is why Communist countries is said to be head strong.
 

Coalescence

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Its been year 3 of the pandemic, and they're only now working on mutual recognition of health code. smh.

Google translated portions of the article:
The first is to strengthen organizational leadership and improve the data sharing mechanism. Under the coordination of the joint prevention and control mechanism of the State Council, horizontally, the Health and Health Commission and relevant departments have established and improved the cross-departmental "big data" sharing mechanism, and rely on data hubs such as the national epidemic prevention and control management platform to realize cross-departmental data application.
The second is to standardize the management of health codes to facilitate the resumption of work and production. In order to standardize the management of health codes, the Comprehensive Group of the Joint Prevention and Control Mechanism of the State Council has issued a series of documents such as management measures, and continued to promote the standardized assignment of health codes in various places, timely transcoding, and maintaining the bottom line of safety.
Anyone here that could interpret the article? It seems like the issue is the data being saved in private data hubs by companies and each city having a different health standard and classification for Covid cases.
 

Petrolicious88

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In a perfect world there would be an off the shelf medical solution and zero covid can be dropped, but we haven't reached that point yet. Until that happens we will unfortunately have to swallow economic losses. The human and economic cost of dropping zero covid would likely outweigh restrictions. Ask yourself how many working age people would drop out of the workforce either due to illness/death, or at the very least suffer declines in productivity. It's hard to accurately quantify but for a manufacturing powerhouse like China the loss would be massive.
For people with pre-existing conditions like diabetes, obesity, lung disease, then yes Covid can be devastating for them.

For healthy people, Covid can be like a flu. Their body can deal with it, especially if they got the vaccines and are keeping vitamin D, C, Zinc , etc.. levels relatively high for extra immune support.
 
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