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Coalescence

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So only something like 400 new confirmed cases in Shanghai if we don't count the conversion from asymptomatic?

For Beijing: 47 new cases, 2 new asymptomatic carriers.
Seems like a dramatic fall compared to yesterday with 1494 symptomatic cases. Did they change the classification again or the majority of the symptomatic cases before came from asymptomatic cases?
 

KYli

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So only something like 400 new confirmed cases in Shanghai if we don't count the conversion from asymptomatic?

For Beijing: 47 new cases, 2 new asymptomatic carriers.
If you are looking for a trend, then asymptomatic cases are much more reliable. Symptomatic cases can go up and down due to conversion from asymptomatic cases.
Seems like a dramatic fall compared to yesterday with 1494 symptomatic cases. Did they change the classification again or the majority of the symptomatic cases before came from asymptomatic cases?
Not really, yesterday you also have 858 symptomatic cases that were asymptomatic before. So it is 434 yesterday vs 425 today.
 

Coalescence

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While Covid is still a problem in many countries around the world, now we have another possible virus that can turn into an outbreak.
Been reading a higher frequency of reports on Avian influenza lately in many countries including China, this is going to be even more concerning than Covid, since its carried by birds, and can't be contained by lockdowns. Time for Great Leap Forward 2: Electric Boogaloo, where we kill all the birds or we could somehow vaccinate all the birds.
 

supercat

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China must vaccinate its senior citizens ASAP.

More than 12 million in Shanghai can leave homes as COVID risk ebbs​

SHANGHAI, April 29 (Reuters) - As many as 12.38 million Shanghai residents, nearly half the population of China's financial hub, are now in lower-risk areas, meaning they can leave their homes, the government said on Friday.

Shanghai, battling China's biggest ever COVID-19 outbreak, put the entire city into lockdown at the beginning of the month, though it has cautiously lifted some restrictions on residential areas that have gone two weeks without a positive case.

The city classifies each housing unit according to three levels of risk, designating those that have not seen a COVID-19 positive case for 14 days as "prevention zones", allowing residents to go out for "appropriate" activities.

By Thursday, the number of people living in high-risk "sealed and controlled zones", subject to the strictest lockdown measures, was 5.27 million, down by 6.6 million since the last readjustment on April 20.

"The number of people in the sealed and controlled zones has clearly fallen," Zhao Dandan, deputy director of Shanghai's health commission, told a media briefing.

Another 5.93 million medium-risk residents are now allowed, in principle, to leave their apartments but are still confined to their compounds.

The government said 52 people died of COVID-19 on April 28, up from 47 a day earlier. Their average age was 84.

The city reported 9,545 new asymptomatic cases on Thursday, up from 9,330 a day earlier, with symptomatic cases also surging to 5,487, from 1,292 the previous day.
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KYli

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Someone asked for percentage of deaths without vaccination in Shanghai. Here is an article has the breakdown of mortality rate of elderly in Shanghai and shows that vaccination helps to decrease mortality rate of elderly. That's why it is so important to vaccinate elderly. We need at least 6-9 months to do so. Only 28% of Hong Konger elderly over 80 were vaccinated in late Feb that's why the mortality rate is so high.
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这些因素影响下,老年人接种的推进在艰难推动。截至 4 月 25 日,上海市共有死亡病例 190 例,61~70 岁 16 例、71~80 岁 38 例、81~90 岁 79 例、91~100 岁 46 例、101 岁及以上 1 例。死亡病例中 12 例曾接种过新冠肺炎病毒疫苗,其余均未接种新冠疫苗。

截至目前,上海市 60 岁及以上老年人累计完成新型冠状病毒疫苗全程接种超 360 万人,全程接种率 62%,完成加强免疫接种超 220 万人,加强接种率38%。

2 月底,香港 80 岁以上只有 28% 的人接种了第二针疫苗。老年人死亡率远低于香港的新加坡,这个数据已经达到了 90%。

截止 3 月 17 日,全国 60 岁以上老年人中,还有 5200 万没有完成全程接种,其中 80 岁以上完成一剂次接种、全程基础免疫和加强免疫的比例分别是58.8%、50.7% 和 19.7%。
Under the influence of these factors, the promotion of vaccination for the elderly is difficult to promote. As of April 25, there were 190 deaths in Shanghai, including 16 cases aged 61-70, 38 cases aged 71-80, 79 cases aged 81-90, 46 cases aged 91-100, and 1 case aged 101 and above. Twelve of the deaths had been vaccinated against the new covid pneumonia virus, and the rest were not vaccinated against the new covid pneumonia virus.

At the end of February, only 28% of Hong Kong people over the age of 80 had received a second shot. The death rate of the elderly is much lower than that of Singapore in Hong Kong, which has reached 90%.


As of March 17, among the elderly over 60 years old in China, there are still 52 million people who have not completed the whole course of vaccination, of which the proportion of people over 80 years old who have completed one dose of vaccination, the whole course of basic immunization and booster immunization are 58.8%, 50.7% and 19.7% respectively. %.
 
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