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本土病例3297例 new symptomatic cases (Shanghai 上海3084例 and Jilin 吉林88例)
本土18187例 new asymptomatic cases (Shanghai 上海17332例 and Jilin 吉林384例)
7 more deaths in Shanghai.
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Does China report deaths by vaccination status? Are those dying mostly unvaxxed?
 
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Does China report deaths by vaccination status? Are those dying mostly unvaxxed?
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so far its unvax. But if you study the pattern in HK, Sinovac vaccines has lower efficacy than Pfizer vac, but don't forget because it was milder, most older people in HK were given Sinovac and alot of them did not complete the third dose. On the mainland, most people in Shanghai, roughly 90% has got 3rd dose, but even if 1% among the 10% people incomplete vax die, it will be roughly 250k, the scale and magnitude is China is many times bigger than what people seem to realise. We cannot allow living with Covid if we can manage it. Imagine if 90% of Chinese are fully vaccinated and 10% are not, and among 1% out of that 10% die, the number of death we are looking at is crazyyyyy. 10% x 1.4 bil = 140mil, 1% x 140mil = 1.4 million. US wants to force us to go down this path to cover up their own failures and justify their own regime. This is a war pitting meritocratic authoritarianism vs chaotic democracy.
 
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so far its unvax. But if you study the pattern in HK, Sinovac vaccines has lower efficacy than Pfizer vac, but don't forget because it was milder, most older people in HK were given Sinovac and alot of them did not complete the third dose. On the mainland, most people in Shanghai, roughly 90% has got 3rd dose, but even if 1% among the 10% people incomplete vax die, it will be roughly 250k, the scale and magnitude is China is many times bigger than what people seem to realise. We cannot allow living with Covid if we can manage it. Imagine if 90% of Chinese are fully vaccinated and 10% are not, and among 1% out of that 10% die, the number of death we are looking at is crazyyyyy. 10% x 1.4 bil = 140mil, 1% x 140mil = 1.4 million. US wants to force us to go down this path to cover up their own failures and justify their own regime. This is a war pitting meritocratic authoritarianism vs chaotic democracy.
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For the elderly in Shangahi, only 62% got 2 doses and 40% got three doses.
 
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An article written by Zhong Nanshan 钟南山, he's the expert responsible for managing the SARS outbreak and also served as an advisor for the measure against the current Covid-19 pandemic in China.

Reading it, I pretty much agree with all of his advices for Covid policy going forward in China, except the part of using foreign mRNA vaccines, what do you guys think?
 
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Very canny move by the US. After the outbreak in Shanghai，the US changed entry policy for people in Shanghai. As of now, not only US citizens and permanent resident can enter the US，but Chinese citizens with US tourist or student visa can also go to the US. What's more is that this policy only apply to those who live in Shanghai .

 
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