Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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If Chinese economy goes into recession to save our elders then so be it. Enjoy stagflation in that case. Pray that China succeeds on its terms or you'll be praying for yourself next.
If Chinese economy enters recession, you should realise your Chinese dream in China, and not as your profile suggest in the the lockdown free USA. 3 weeks quarantine upon entering China, will be a warm up for new unpredictable lockdowns throughout your stay.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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If Chinese economy enters recession, you should realise your Chinese dream in China, and not as your profile suggest in the the lockdown free USA. 3 weeks quarantine upon entering China, will be a warm up for new unpredictable lockdowns throughout your stay.
LMAO literally "go back to China". That's not a threat lol, going "back to China" isn't a punishment.

How about this, if I feel like I'm not getting a sufficient return on investment or risks are getting too high here then yes I can cash out my assets and leave. But that's a loss if I'm still making money from my assets, and it won't be just a loss for me but for all the people my money helps employ.

In the meantime I have the freedom to say whatever I want.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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If Chinese economy enters recession, you should realise your Chinese dream in China, and not as your profile suggest in the the lockdown free USA. 3 weeks quarantine upon entering China, will be a warm up for new unpredictable lockdowns throughout your stay.
If China goes into recession then your neck of the woods also goes into recession. Saving lives is worth it period. You have a different preferred take but it's far easier to do so in places where the population is pathetically miniscule. Perhaps China should just adopt the Swedes system, infect them all and drop dead that would sure spark economic nirvana huh.
 

Indiefunda

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Thank you for the table. I agree with almost everything you wrote, I never said that Covid is the common cold, Covid is a tragedy. However the most of these excess deaths were alpha/delta. Omicron is still dangerous and some times deadly but not deadly enough justifying "prisoning" people in their houses. This is all I am saying. The actual mortality we need to concentrate on is between 0.02% and 0.04% because there are vaccines for everyone and China is the ONLY country on this planet that has the capacity to vaccinate and boost regularly (when needed) all their citizens. Then you have a mortality of between 0.02% and 0.04% and most of these are people that they will (sadly) die from other diseases the next 12-24 months. Let's hope they make the vaccine mandatory at least for those that are over 60.
 

KYli

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Thank you for the table. I agree with almost everything you wrote, I never said that Covid is the common cold, Covid is a tragedy. However the most of these excess deaths were alpha/delta. Omicron is still dangerous and some times deadly but not deadly enough justifying "prisoning" people in their houses. This is all I am saying. The actual mortality we need to concentrate on is between 0.02% and 0.04% because there are vaccines for everyone and China is the ONLY country on this planet that has the capacity to vaccinate and boost regularly (when needed) all their citizens. Then you have a mortality of between 0.02% and 0.04% and most of these are people that they will (sadly) die from other diseases the next 12-24 months. Let's hope they make the vaccine mandatory at least for those that are over 60.
Forcing people to vaccinate every 6 months isn't as easy and practical as you think. Legality, morality and human rights are not something that you can just ignore. At the moment, China CDC is strongly advised against forcing people to vaccinate.

As for stay at home order, it is lot more common than you think. All Category A virus and diseases would automatically trigger stay at home and quarantine orders.

More importantly, it doesn't matter if China wanted to change its tactics later on. Right now, any attempt to relax the lock down would result in a minimum of 2 million deaths within a few months. That's a lost that the Chinese government and most Chinese wouldn't accept..
 

KYli

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No wonder Shanghai failed so badly in containing the virus.
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Jia Yangqing, Alibaba’s vice president of technology, posted a clarification on his social media account on Thursday saying that he had not resigned from the company, and had simply traveled from Shanghai to the US to see a doctor.

Jia travelled from Shanghai to California, the US, in the middle of the night because of the situation in Shanghai, according to Jia’s Facebook post that circulated online. Jia’s post, written in English, not only criticized Shanghai’s epidemic prevention policies, but also described how he used his connections to get a pass to fly to the US overnight.

Jia wrote in a Facebook post that he found “someone with ‘connections’ to get a pass, crossed the city at 4 am in the backseat of a van” and “passed through police checkpoints in a don’t-ask-don’t-tell way.”

Jia’s mockery of Shanghai’s epidemic prevention policies in his Facebook post and use of connections to fly to the US drew a huge backlash from netizens and became one of the top trending topics on China’s Twitter-like social media, Sina Weibo.


Jia explained in another post written in Chinese that it’s possible to buy tickets and go to the airport normally when taking international flights after the quarantine date expires, and no special approval was required. Besides, the use of “connections” referred to asking a friend for help to contact a taxi to get to the airport, Jia explained.

“The English statement was full of contempt for Shanghai’s epidemic prevention policy and self-congratulation for exploiting loopholes, while the statement written in Chinese was vague and full of excuses to justify himself,” one netizen commented on Weibo.

Jia studied automation at Tsinghua University as an undergraduate and graduate student, and then went to the University of California, Berkeley to get a PhD in computer science. During his PhD, he created the source code for Caffe, a deep learning framework used by Microsoft, Yahoo, Nvidia, Adobe and others.

Alibaba announced on March 18, 2019, that Jia, a former Facebook artificial intelligence scientist, had joined Alibaba as a vice president of technology and to lead the research and development of the big data computing platform.
 
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