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OppositeDay

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1 month old tweet. UAE started rolling out Sinopharm's 2nd generation protein vaccine at the end of January. People were waiting for delivery in mid-Feb. Would like to know their production capacity.

Chinese government should fund production of promising vaccine candidates even before phase III data and authorization. Store them somewhere so we have them ready when approved. Government has been way too passive in supporting new vaccines.
 

Quickie

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1 month old tweet. UAE started rolling out Sinopharm's 2nd generation protein vaccine at the end of January. People were waiting for delivery in mid-Feb. Would like to know their production capacity.

Chinese government should fund production of promising vaccine candidates even before phase III data and authorization. Store them somewhere so we have them ready when approved. Government has been way too passive in supporting new vaccines.


The question is would China be able to pull off its Zero Covid Strategy if it has vaccinated its population with only mRNA vaccines with the same kind/degree of lockdowns?

I have my doubts looking at the current/recent massive uncontrollable outbreaks of the Omicron variant in the countries vaccinated mainly with mRNA vaccines like South Korea, Japan, Singapore and so many other western countries.
 

Phead128

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Korea is the the new world champion as of yesterday. Over 400,000 cases, and most Koreans are triple jabbed with Pfizer, Moderna or J&J.
Even if you are tripple jabbed with Pfizer/Moderna/J&J, the antibody counts wane over time (~6 mons), and new variants can breakthrough infection, and significant # of children are not even vaccinated.

So I think China eventually needs to realize, even triple/quadruple vaccinated best mRNA will be breakthrough cases, why not focus on antibody cocktails and antiviral drugs to treat these breakthrough cases if they are severe enough for hospitalization and prevent death? The goal should not be preventing infections, but preventing hospitalization and preventing deaths.

As for the long COVID concern, studies have shown that being vaccinated significantly reduces probability of long COVID compared to unvaccinated.
 

taxiya

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In Singapore they relaxed their mask mandate, social distancing and dine in restrictions too early.
Many people forgot there are many factors contributing to the dynamic situation, besides the types of vaccines given.
It is true that the relaxing caused the increase of cases, but then what did your "they use mRNA" mean to the matter then?

Here is the context.

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(KYli) Singapore abandoned zero-covid policy => (you) Singapore got mostly mRNA.

Were you trying to say that mRNA is responsible for the massive increase?

To be fair, without comparison, nothing can be said about any vaccine in the same situation. I don't understand why you keep on the "mRNA" thing all the time.
 
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