Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

tokenanalyst

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And we Hong Kongers death tolls have risen to over 3500. By time of the covid is contained, Hong Kong would have like over 7000 new deaths due to covid. I am against any reopening until second generation vaccines that work well against Omicron are available and over 95% of population is vaccinated and boosted.
After this wave i don't think Hong Kong will need an Omicron specific vaccine, the quantity of cases is absolutely massive but the deaths had been "low" with 0.5% of the infected dying, compared with Delta in Chile were 1.5% of the infected die. Still the expansion is so rapid that is a shock for any healthcare system so i hope this wave pass quickly.
 

SanWenYu

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The Shanghai health authority issued an update on the confirmed cases during the 24 hours of Mar 13. There are 41 + 128 local cases. This is a substantial increase to what's reported earlier. It is also a jump from the below-100 numbers in the past few days.

"32 symptomatic and 90 asymptomatic cases are found among those who are already in controlled quarantine, the rest are found by contact tracing who have been probably exposed."

据“健康上海12320”公众号消息,3月13日0—24时,上海新增本土新冠肺炎确诊病例41例(含2例由无症状感染者转为确诊病例)和无症状感染者128例,其中2例本土确诊病例为此前的无症状感染者转归,32例本土确诊病例和90例无症状感染者在隔离管控中发现,其余在相关风险人群排查中发现。

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ericlfh

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I think China is definately opening up. They just don't do it like the rest of the world by opening the floodgates. They are easing on lockdowns and start counting the asymptomatic cases. I expect these cases will continue to increase, as long as death and more serious cases is kept very very low, they will be fine. They are doing endemic with chinese characteristics. The pro-west can continue to butt-hurt about it. The Chinese studies the western method and improve them. They apply this method in all fields and all of it work excellently. So expect more butthurt headlines like "China copy me, China bad".
 

OppositeDay

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Good news from CanSino. The aerosolized version of its covid19 vaccine solicites 6 times as much neutralizing antibodies against Omicron when used as booster to inactivated vaccines compared to homologous boosting at 14 days. The number is 5 for the injection version. Also the aerosolized version seems to produce longer term antibodies, with GMT against Omicron increasing between 14 days and 28 days after boosting. At 28 days, the GMT ratio against homologous booster increases to about 15.

All done with a dosage 1/5 of the injection version, which results in 5 times the production capacity. Very, very promising.

Updated neutralizing antibodies ratio table (compared against inactivated homologous boosting)
Livzon 2nd gen 11
Sinopharm 2nd gen protein subunit 8
BNT-Pfizer 7
CanSino aerosolized 6 (15 at 28 days)
CanSino intramuscular injection 5
Livzon 1st gen 5
Zhifei 2
 

SanWenYu

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1337 + 788 (1807 + 1315 yesterday)

Symptomatic cases:

Jilin 895 (1412), Shandong 92 (175), Guangdong 79 (62), Shan'xi 60 (39), Hebei 51 (33), Shanghai 41 (1), Tianjin 40 (17), Jiangshu 16 (23), Ganshu 12 (5), Fujian 10 (0).

77 asymptomatics cases turned symptomatic.

本土病例1337例(吉林895例,其中吉林市453例、长春市430例、四平市7例、延边朝鲜族自治州4例、松原市1例;山东92例,其中青岛市68例、德州市13例、淄博市7例、滨州市2例、威海市1例、烟台市1例;广东79例,其中深圳市75例、东莞市2例、广州市1例、中山市1例;陕西60例,其中宝鸡市45例、西安市14例、汉中市1例;河北51例,其中廊坊市30例、沧州市19例、邢台市2例;上海41例,其中闵行区9例、浦东新区7例、静安区6例、嘉定区5例、徐汇区4例、黄浦区3例、青浦区2例、长宁区1例、虹口区1例、金山区1例、松江区1例、奉贤区1例;天津40例,其中武清区16例、南开区6例、河西区5例、滨海新区4例、津南区3例、红桥区2例、西青区2例、北辰区2例;江苏16例,其中连云港市12例、常州市3例、宿迁市1例;甘肃12例,其中兰州市8例、兰州新区4例;福建10例,均在泉州市;辽宁9例,其中营口市5例、铁岭市2例、沈阳市1例、盘锦市1例;黑龙江7例,均在哈尔滨市;北京6例,其中朝阳区3例、海淀区2例、顺义区1例;浙江6例,其中杭州市4例、嘉兴市1例、衢州市1例;重庆6例,均在沙坪坝区;云南4例,其中德宏傣族景颇族自治州3例、红河哈尼族彝族自治州1例;广西3例,均在钦州市),含77例由无症状感染者转为确诊病例(吉林41例,山东26例,陕西4例,天津2例,上海2例,江苏1例,广东1例)。

Asymptomatic cases:

Hebei 162 (40), Guangdong 151 (194), Jilin 131 (744), Shanghai 128 (64), Shandong 97 (172), Yunnan 35 (20), Jiangshu 23 (19), Ganshu 15 (36), Guangxi 14 (9), Tianjian 12 (9), Helongjiang 10 (0).

98 probable cases confirmed (including 21 imported).

本土788例(河北162例,其中廊坊市145例、沧州市13例、邢台市4例;广东151例,其中东莞市140例、深圳市11例;吉林131例,其中吉林市120例、长春市3例、四平市3例、梅河口市2例、白山市1例、松原市1例、延边朝鲜族自治州1例;上海128例,其中浦东新区34例、闵行区21例、徐汇区14例、嘉定区14例、黄浦区9例、松江区7例、普陀区6例、金山区6例、静安区4例、虹口区3例、杨浦区3例、宝山区3例、青浦区2例、长宁区1例、奉贤区1例;山东97例,其中威海市35例、青岛市32例、淄博市14例、德州市8例、潍坊市5例、烟台市3例;云南35例,其中红河哈尼族彝族自治州20例、德宏傣族景颇族自治州13例、昆明市1例、临沧市1例;江苏23例,其中连云港市16例、苏州市3例、南京市2例、常州市1例、泰州市1例;甘肃15例,其中兰州新区9例、兰州市4例、白银市2例;广西14例,其中崇左市10例、防城港市3例、柳州市1例;天津12例,其中西青区4例、武清区4例、红桥区2例、河西区1例、南开区1例;黑龙江10例,其中哈尔滨市8例、牡丹江市2例;江西4例,其中南昌市2例、赣州市1例、上饶市1例;北京2例,均在海淀区;浙江2例,均在杭州市;安徽1例,在滁州市;重庆1例,在沙坪坝区);当日转为确诊病例98例(境外输入21例)
 

Rettam Stacf

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China has been reporting asymptomatic cases daily as a separate category from symptomatic cases since the early days of the pandemic. I remember seeing some numbers last year and the asymptomatic cases were fairly low compared to symptomatic cases. But now it seems like they are at 1:2~1:1 ratio. It could be due to the higher vaccination rate as well as the milder symptoms of the Omicron variant.

Does anyone has the historical data for daily asymptomatic versus symptomatic cases ? It will be interesting to see the trend.
 

KYli

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Is incredible how many silent carriers of this virus exists. I am starting to think that if it wasn't for asymptomatic carriers we won't had a pandemic at all.
Possibly, SARS doesn't have silent carriers and got eradicated.
China has been reporting asymptomatic cases daily as a separate category from symptomatic cases since the early days of the pandemic. I remember seeing some numbers last year and the asymptomatic cases were fairly low compared to symptomatic cases. But now it seems like they are at 1:2~1:1 ratio. It could be due to the higher vaccination rate as well as the milder symptoms of the Omicron variant.

Does anyone has the historical data for daily asymptomatic versus symptomatic cases ? It will be interesting to see the trend.
40% in the early days before Omicron.
 
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