Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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In India they claimed that most of them got infected, therefore its number of cases are lower than that of the US. How trustworthy are Indian numbers?
As trustworthy as Indian covid deaths numbers.
POS CNN, I get angrier and angrier as I read this filth of an article. So many wrongs on many levels.
This is nonsense. China zero covid policy doesn't mean China expect covid free. That is not possible unless society is completely isolated from rest of the world. It basically means when there is outbreak, China rushes quickly to stamp it out and coordinates efforts for different branches of medical and government to fight the virus. It means they just dun surrender to it.
Same old shit, cherry pick anti China individual to blame mainland. Even when mainland doctors are rushing to hk to help out the mess they are in.
Again choosing entitled white expats opinions and using kids as weapons to blame covid policy of hk.
So many other nonsense stuff they included in the article but didn't raise any of the essential root causes.
Cathay pacific crew breakng quarantine restrictions which started this mess.
Entitled expats ignoring social distancing rules.
The misinformation on vaccines and particularly western negative coverage of Chinese vaccines that led to low uptake initially,
Residual anti mainland sentiment and distrust making it hard for greater covid cooperation between two sides.
West media Constant criticism of China zero covid policy
Lam's weak will in bending to pressure from west and expat community. Can be seen when she let western VIPs like that wall street ceo and Nicole Kidman to totally skip quarantine.
Got over confident and did not prepare adequately for when omicron hits.
The flawed hospital system in hk where resources are wasted for private hospitals and public ones are overburdened
Probably alot more I missed. Should have just ban CNN in hk. It writes for the westerners not for the truth.
This guy has a better idea of wat led to current situation in hk. May not cover everything but definitely closer to the truth.
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Scapegoating and blaming is what these media do.
The one major mistake Hong Kong made was not getting most of its population vaccinated (and boosted) at the same time when they have got the outbreak under control with very low cases.
With the virus running rampant now, it's certainly not ideal conditions for the population to get vaccinated when people have to get into close proximity to each other in close places in order to get vaccinated.
Because of this misstep, I believe many more of them would now unnecessarily get infected in the process of getting themselves vaccinated (close proximity to infected people) than it would have been the case when cases were very low, not to mention the weeks/months for the immunity to build up.
They can vaccinate people in outdoor places, like in many of the soccer stadiums and horse race courses. Even indoor stadiums provided they have efficient ventilation systems.
I get the impression that uptake of Sinovac in HK is very low in general.
This is kind of unique to their situation as Sinovac and Sinopharm were quite effective in Singapore to get the older folks vaccinated (according to my friend).
I remember initially there were some deaths in HK unrelated to either vaccine but happened soon after the people getting the shot and got over publicized (ie. person falling off a cliff). In Singapore there was a few cases as well,but eventually people shook it off.
Anyone have more insight?
Around 1/3 of Hong Kongers took Sinovac but many of them also took Pfizer as booster.
Hong Kong media went overdrive after a few deaths. They reported each death and made them headline which scare off many elderly. Vaccination rate for people under 60 except 3-11 was almost 80% in HK but only 15% of Hong Kongers who are 80 or older were vaccinated in January before the outbreak. For people who are 60 or above, it is 40%.
So it is a disaster for Hong Kong as Carrie Lam failed to implement contact tracing due to privacy concern or persuade old people to be vaccinated. Both Hong Kong media and cockroach should also be held accountable. As they went override to discourage vaccination of elderly and pressure the Hong Kong government to follow the UK for ending restrictions.