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OppositeDay

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Livzon released a bit of preliminary data from Phase III trial of its fusion protein vaccine V-01 as heterologous booster to inactivated vaccines. Two inactivated shots + V-01 booster has a calculated absolute efficacy rate of 61.35%. There were 110 cases of Covid among trial participants, 60 cases had been sequenced and all of them were Omicron cases. Looking pretty solid. Safety data's good too.

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Livzon plans to produce1.5 billion doses of V-01 this year.

As I said earlier, China has plenty of good vaccine options. It's only up to the regulators to approve them. According to online rumors, SinoVac is providing booster shots in China free of charge in order to kill competition.
 

Phead128

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That effectively makes vaccination status irrelevant, right? It would be exactly the same as China is doing, vacinated or not, one must be tested negative to get in the country.

Even inside EU, vaccination certification is not neccesarily enough to cross borders within the block. See here,
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To me, in light of Omicron, I don't really see vaccine recognition has any real value, it is only and will remain as a political matter.
Unvaccinated foreigners is a strain on hospital systems too. US Omnicron deaths exceeded Delta deaths at it's peak and hospitals got overwhelm despite 'mild' variant. Better have all foreigners vaccinated than clogging up valueable hospital spots for native Chinese/Locals.
With a so low protection effectiveness, vaccination is actually counter productive in preventing the spread, it will create lot of asymptomatic or light symptomatic people to further spread the virus.
Low-efficacy vaccines are counterproductive compared to what?
Effectively, these vaccines are becoming a precautionary medicine treatment rather than serving to stop the infection spreading.
Vaccines has only eradicated two viruses in human history, so nobody really expects vaccines to "stop the spread". Vaccines are more about "saving lives" than "stopping spread".
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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How do you explain the situation in Hong Kong? What vaccines do they need now?
I mean, how do you explain the situation in the U.S. with a daily case of 100,000 cases and a daily death of over 3,000 pee day? How about South Korea with a daily case of 90,000 per day?

If you read the reporting in Hong Kong, the ongoing rise in cases were a combination of doing away with the measures that kept the city relatively safe. Plus, there's been a report that came out essentially stating that regardless of vaccine use the effectiveness against Omicron is pretty low (30% effective).
 

Tyler

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I mean, how do you explain the situation in the U.S. with a daily case of 100,000 cases and a daily death of over 3,000 pee day? How about South Korea with a daily case of 90,000 per day?

If you read the reporting in Hong Kong, the ongoing rise in cases were a combination of doing away with the measures that kept the city relatively safe. Plus, there's been a report that came out essentially stating that regardless of vaccine use the effectiveness against Omicron is pretty low (30% effective).
In the US, many places are not mandating the wearing of masks. People go to watch sports, movies and restaurants, and they sit so closely together. That is why there are so many cases.
 

Quickie

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How do you explain the situation in Hong Kong? What vaccines do they need now?

South Korea and Japan, both mostly vaccinated with mRNA vaccines, are fairing worst than some of the other Asian countries in this current Omicron wave.

Most South East Asian countries are vaccinated with mostly inactivated vaccines such as Sinovac. Malaysia now actually has a much larger percentage vaccinated with Pfizer than that of Sinovac but is currently doing worst in terms of new cases per capita than those countries mostly vaccinated with Sinovac like Indonesia, Philippines (last I checked on the downhill?), Cambodia in this wave of Omicron.
 
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