Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

SteelBird

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Were people infected from work or from elsewhere/home? If from work, was everyone wearing facemask while working?
Sources of infection are unknown. We found those infections during routine test after or before some major events. Staff all answered they don't know where or when they contracted the virus. We all wear mask during work but seems not so useful because they way they wear masks are not so strict.
 

Quickie

Colonel

This bit of information is rather late in coming out after so many people have been vaccinated with the vaccine.

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Pfizer's vaccine trial questioned over data integrity, regulatory oversight​


People wait in line to receive the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at a mobile vaccine clinic in the Brooklyn borough of New York, United States, Aug. 23, 2021. (Photo by Michael Nagle/Xinhua)
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites, was quoted as saying.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- U.S. multinational pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer has come under pressure over alleged data fraud suspicion in its COVID-19 clinical trials, according to British medical journal The BMJ.
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," an article published Wednesday in the The BMJ said, quoting a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding, the article added.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Pfizer's vaccine trial questioned over data integrity, regulatory oversight​


People wait in line to receive the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at a mobile vaccine clinic in the Brooklyn borough of New York, United States, Aug. 23, 2021. (Photo by Michael Nagle/Xinhua)
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites, was quoted as saying.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- U.S. multinational pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer has come under pressure over alleged data fraud suspicion in its COVID-19 clinical trials, according to British medical journal The BMJ.
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," an article published Wednesday in the The BMJ said, quoting a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding, the article added.
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badoc

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This bit of information is rather late in coming out after so many people have been vaccinated with the vaccine.

[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.news.cn/english/2021-11/07/c_1310296098.htm[/URL]

Pfizer's vaccine trial questioned over data integrity, regulatory oversight​


People wait in line to receive the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at a mobile vaccine clinic in the Brooklyn borough of New York, United States, Aug. 23, 2021. (Photo by Michael Nagle/Xinhua)
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites, was quoted as saying.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- U.S. multinational pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer has come under pressure over alleged data fraud suspicion in its COVID-19 clinical trials, according to British medical journal The BMJ.
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," an article published Wednesday in the The BMJ said, quoting a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding, the article added.
I was alluding to this report in my earlier post.
There are now reports to downplay it.
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Fact check: Report questioning Pfizer trial shouldn’t undermine confidence in vaccines​

Nov 3, 2021
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badoc

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I am blocked by the Great Firewall of America or Great Firewall of Europe depending which one to blame. :oops:
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Gist of this report.
The Pfizer Phase III trial involved 44,000 people and 153 locations. From August 2020 through Sept. 17, 2020
when she was fired Jackson told CBS 17 that Ventavia accounted for at least 1,200 of those people and accounted for three sites.

“If all of the clinical trial data were dependent on one particular site, and that site’s data were called into question, I think it would be a much bigger concern,” Fisher said.

The more important takeaway, she said, is the need for improved oversight in clinical trials.
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Problem is one person, willing to risk her regional director job, to tell the truth is one too many.
Most probably she had taken the past 1 year to prepare to be fired before coming out.
There should be many not willing to come out and risk their jobs.
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winword

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This bit of information is rather late in coming out after so many people have been vaccinated with the vaccine.

[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.news.cn/english/2021-11/07/c_1310296098.htm[/URL]

Pfizer's vaccine trial questioned over data integrity, regulatory oversight​


People wait in line to receive the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at a mobile vaccine clinic in the Brooklyn borough of New York, United States, Aug. 23, 2021. (Photo by Michael Nagle/Xinhua)
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites, was quoted as saying.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- U.S. multinational pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer has come under pressure over alleged data fraud suspicion in its COVID-19 clinical trials, according to British medical journal The BMJ.
Pfizer "falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in its pivotal phase III trial," an article published Wednesday in the The BMJ said, quoting a former regional director at the Texas-based research organization Ventavia Research Group, which managed Pfizer vaccine trial sites.
Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding, the article added.
The Pfizer vaccine is considered the best right now. I have also not heard anything regarding any complication after administrating the vaccine

If you are really getting heart palpitations after getting the vaccine, I would advice you to seek medical assistance. It can also be due to anxiety, or just mind tricks (yes, our brain is fcked up sometimes)

In any case, go to your doctor.

Better safe than sorry
Well when I said that I had palpitations after getting the first dose of Pfizer vaccine, I was told it's because my brain was fucked up.

If J&J is still doing just fine after putting benzene and asbestos to their product taught me anything, it's that nothing will happen to Pfizer either.
 
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I am blocked by the Great Firewall of America or Great Firewall of Europe depending which one to blame. :oops:
View attachment 78848
Gist of this report.
The Pfizer Phase III trial involved 44,000 people and 153 locations. From August 2020 through Sept. 17, 2020
when she was fired Jackson told CBS 17 that Ventavia accounted for at least 1,200 of those people and accounted for three sites.

“If all of the clinical trial data were dependent on one particular site, and that site’s data were called into question, I think it would be a much bigger concern,” Fisher said.

The more important takeaway, she said, is the need for improved oversight in clinical trials.
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Problem is one person, willing to risk her regional director job, to tell the truth is one too many.
Most probably she had taken the past 1 year to prepare to be fired before coming out.
There should be many not willing to come out and risk their jobs.
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The key takeaway here really is this paragraph and the "fact check" answer does not even make sense. Hundreds of Billion was allocated for operation Warp Speed and fisher is saying that FDA does not have the proper resource to provide oversight to life and death saving drug. This is strawman argument to find an excuse to support a preconceived answer.

Granted this is still true and given that FDA is unable to provide oversight despite all the money poured into Operation Warp Speed, can we ever trust FDA and their certification program ever again?
WHO should start challenging the compromised FDA.



"“We’re really interested in the story because it is about COVID-19. And it’s about vaccines. But I think it’s really a much more important story about just how clinical research is done, what kinds of organizations and companies are part of it,” Fisher said. “And really, I think it also points to the fact that the FDA is incredibly under resourced, and they just cannot do the kinds of inspections and investigations that might be required.
 
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