Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Phead128]

No, but I can prove that by NOT opening up, infections can be kept low. What is happening now in China is the proof. In contrast, you think "permanent zero deaths" is possible -- even likely, given how loud you've been -- after opening up, and the evidence nearly everywhere (especially in India and the US, and even in heavily vaccinated Israel) thoroughly contradicts you. Did you say you were a scientist in training? To ignore the evidence does not look good on your scientific record.

Who says reopen now?

I say reopen after boosters and full vaccination... preferably a gradual phased loosening of restrictions over long period of time.

Indeed, "Re-opening with Chinese Characteristics" will be VASTLY superior to Western re-opening because unlike West, we Chinese make decisions based on the science and real-world evidence, instead of political expediency or gut feeling.

I am addressing the long-term milestones and exit strategy....not asking to reopen now. So stop misconstruing my argument.

 

[DarkStar]

Pfizer's vaccines come with fine print, specifically that nations bend the knee to anglo american interests and enslave their citizens to the white anglo:


white anglo owners of Pfizer expect to exploit and pillage nations whilst being above the laws of those nations. Did i not say the Anglosphere is a feudal oligarchy?

 

[Temstar]

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[Nutrient]

Who says reopen now?

I say reopen after boosters and full vaccination... preferably a gradual phased loosening of restrictions over long period of time.

Indeed, "Re-opening with Chinese Characteristics" will be VASTLY superior to Western re-opening because unlike West, we Chinese make decisions based on the science and real-world evidence, instead of political expediency or gut feeling.

I am addressing the long-term milestones and exit strategy....not asking to reopen now. So stop misconstruing my argument.

After their fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh booster shot, everyone will be immune to all the variants of the virus!

Actually, what evidence do you have for your assertion that "permanent zero deaths" will be possible after any number of booster shots, if China opened up and allowed the virus to run wild?

I doubt you have ANY evidence. Whereas I can say that China's anti-pandemic policy has been a huge success. Why should China do something as stupid as replacing an eminently working program with your plan, which as far as I can tell has absolutely no supporting evidence?

 

[DarkStar]

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Indians take a "inshallah" attitude towards harming others, with the perspective that they can always 'repay the karma in another life'. This allows them to rationalise away atrocious behaviour like lying, cheating, stealing and raping.

I would not trust any indian products in healthcare, specifically Ranbaxy products despite a japanese company purchasing it since a fair amount of products are still sourced from the subcontinent.

 

[Dolcevita]

Indians take a "inshallah" attitude towards harming others, with the perspective that they can always 'repay the karma in another life'. This allows them to rationalise away atrocious behaviour like lying, cheating, stealing and raping.

I would not trust any indian products in healthcare, specifically Ranbaxy products despite a japanese company purchasing it since a fair amount of products are still sourced from the subcontinent.

Ranbaxy was sold by Daiichi Sangyo Pharmaceutical way back in 2014.

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[DarkStar]

Ranbaxy was sold by Daiichi Sangyo Pharmaceutical way back in 2014.

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far out, time moves quickly

 

[JSChineseTiger]

You should test that yourself and let us know how it goes.

I particularly have lasting cold, sneezes just about every week. So I don't get covid or flu for that matter. Skinny people typically have cold pretty much all year round.

 

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I wonder where this misinformation came from. I recall last year a few people also died taking chloroquine intended for treating parasite in aquarium fish because Trump said chloroquine is a miracle drug against COVID-19. This time around I don't recall any leaders saying anything about ivermectin.

 

[Tyler]

Vaccination rate, booser shot, second generation vaccines and antibodies drugs are all important for the fight against covid. However, as a top Chinese CDC official said, the most important thing is predictability. Scientists still don't know enough about covid-19 to be able to predict how the virus would mutate or how fast it would mutate. This unknown is why the Chinese government is reluctant to open up. That's why the coming fall, winter and early spring is so important. If vaccines and booster shots can be somewhat effective against the virus and lowering the deaths, then things would be lot more simple. If not or if the virus evades the vaccines, then there would not be an opening up anytime soon.

Is China planning any sinovac booster shots or second generation vaccines?