or after 150 years of indoctrination, It is just ingrained in the HK psyche to provide special treatment to their master Anglo.
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or after 150 years of indoctrination, It is just ingrained in the HK psyche to provide special treatment to their master Anglo.
@SteelBird bro from my favorite doctor , hope this will assuage your concern.I'm ethnically Chinese, born in Vietnam but living in Cambodia. So what I do care about is: the world as a whole, China, Vietnam and Cambodia for particular.
Vietnam has surpassed 10,000 daily cases today. It has locked down over one month and will continue to do so for another month until Sep 15. For the past month of lockdown, daily cases just doesn't go down. I don't know what they have done wrong. For compare, Cambodia, which supposed to have inferior health system, has done a much better job to contain the virus with daily case drop to 500+ as of today.
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Bro, once China achieves 100% vaccination plus boosters, China can grow even faster without sporatic lockdowns to achieve an elusive goal of permanent zero infections. Permanent zero deaths should be sufficient.
That's the point! Not that lockdowns are bad. Temporary lockdowns until 100% vaccination is reasonable and good. But you can't do it forever while the rest of the world moves on after everyone is vaccinated.
Even Chief Scientist of Chinese CDC says China won't pursue 'zero COVID' strategy forever. So can you distinguish domestic propaganda with science? The scientist tell the truth in private conversations with each other, whereas Chinese state media is telling people to never give up (because vaccination rate is low, no boosters available, children aren't vaccinated, Olympics isn't over). Use independent critical thinking skills and read the article instead of headlines next time.
While some members here hope that China will open up by next month due to herd immunity (personally I think their hope for China to open up ASAP is more or less based on personal reasons), Zhong Nanshan, another prominent expert, believe that herd immunity be achieved by the end of this year. However he hasn’t mentioned anything about opening up. Hopefully Covid won’t mutate to a more dangerous level by then.
China’s top respiratory disease expert Zhong Nanshan on Friday said the country could reach herd immunity against by the end of the year if more than 80 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated.
He said while , including , were less effective six months after the first dose, herd immunity was still achievable with booster shots.
“[At this stage] we believe a booster shot could strengthen the efficacy of the vaccines and we estimate more than 80 per cent of the population will be vaccinated by the end of this year. Therefore we hope that we will be able to achieve herd immunity [by then],” Zhong told a China-Arab states conference in the Ningxia Hui region via video link.
China’s top respiratory disease expert Zhong Nanshan on Friday said the country could reach herd immunity against by the end of the year if more than 80 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated.
He said while , including , were less effective six months after the first dose, herd immunity was still achievable with booster shots.
“[At this stage] we believe a booster shot could strengthen the efficacy of the vaccines and we estimate more than 80 per cent of the population will be vaccinated by the end of this year. Therefore we hope that we will be able to achieve herd immunity [by then],” Zhong told a China-Arab states conference in the Ningxia Hui region via video link.
Definitely China should NOT consider open up even at 80% vaccination rate. China should wait until all children are vaccinated too, to achieve comprehensive population coverage. China should wait until boosters are available for people who are fully vaccinated +8 months ago but with significantly waning antibody count. China should wait until Olympics is conquered and finished.
Definitely don't re-open too early, that's dangerous and counter-productive, and West is waiting for China to fail to proclaim Western superiority. Fuck the West!!
I hope China can achieve the TRIFECTA to own the West:
- First big nation to achieve universal vaccination rate. (+80%, preferably 100%)
- One of handful nations to achieve universal booster shots (with mRNA tech is icing on the cake)
- The ONLY big nation with Zero deaths.
To me, apparently Vietnam has not locked down for the past months. See KYli's post. What ever they did before the coming Monday wasn't the kind of lock down that works.I'm ethnically Chinese, born in Vietnam but living in Cambodia. So what I do care about is: the world as a whole, China, Vietnam and Cambodia for particular.
Vietnam has surpassed 10,000 daily cases today. It has locked down over one month and will continue to do so for another month until Sep 15. For the past month of lockdown, daily cases just doesn't go down. I don't know what they have done wrong. For compare, Cambodia, which supposed to have inferior health system, has done a much better job to contain the virus with daily case drop to 500+ as of today.
That is a surprise in a Communist country where troops are deployed to maintain order in a natural disaster. I am not talking about their labor work but their function as police. To me it demonstrate that Communist Party of Vietnam has far less social mobilization and controlling power than China.
Vaccines don't have to be 100% prevent all infections in order to be beneficial.
Vaccines can prevent vast majority of deaths, over 10X reduction in deaths, that proves that mass vaccination (+80%, preferrably 100%) is a great exit strategy for China and the world.
If you don't have an Exit strategy, you will be like US forever stuck in Afghanistan pursuing an elusive goal of eradicating terrorism/Taliban..... which to be frank, is the same like attempt to eradicate SAR-CoV-2.... you kill human cases, but it is always endemic in the animal host reservoir population (bats, deer, dog, cat, civets)....so it won't be truly eradicated.
Vaccines can prevent vast majority of deaths, over 10X reduction in deaths, that proves that mass vaccination (+80%, preferrably 100%) is a great exit strategy for China and the world.
If you don't have an Exit strategy, you will be like US forever stuck in Afghanistan pursuing an elusive goal of eradicating terrorism/Taliban..... which to be frank, is the same like attempt to eradicate SAR-CoV-2.... you kill human cases, but it is always endemic in the animal host reservoir population (bats, deer, dog, cat, civets)....so it won't be truly eradicated.