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KYli

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Not sure why Myanmar only requested for purchases and donations until recently. Anyway 2.5 millions doses of Sinopharm were donated to Myanmar.
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Zhong also cited a follow-up study on Sinovac’s early stage clinical trials that found a twentyfold increase in neutralising antibody levels – indicating immune response – in people who were given a third dose of the Sinovac jab, nine months after their second. In elderly people it went up 30 times.

A study published last month, co-led by Sinovac, found that a third dose of the vaccine given six or more months after the second jab could boost the concentration of antibodies by three to five times. Antibody levels were found to have declined substantially six months after two doses were given, but the study concluded that a third dose resulted in a “strong boost in immune response”. The research has not been peer-reviewed and was posted on preprint server medRxiv.org.

Other countries are also looking at mixing vaccines. Last week, Turkish researchers said a study of more than 30 million inoculated people found that three doses of inactivated vaccines offered more protection than receiving an mRNA vaccine booster shot after two inactivated vaccine doses.

On Friday, Zhong again said that Chinese vaccines still offered protection against the Delta strain, though they were not as effective. He cited a small study in Guangzhou during a Delta outbreak earlier this year that found the Chinese vaccines were 59 per cent effective in preventing infection, and 70 per cent effective in preventing moderate cases. No serious cases were found among the 74 vaccinated people in the study.

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Sour grapes. Just hilarious, facts speak louder than words. Most SEA nations continue to procure Chinese vaccines. It doesn't mean these countries wouldn't use other vaccines.
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solarz

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Like the presenter says, unfair and preferential treatment ain't nothing new and part and parcel in any society, but how much of an effort is it really for the HK governing elite to at least make it look like they give a damn, even when everybody knows they don't?

HK govt screwing up again.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Where are you from?
Was from Markham
HK govt screwing up again.
HK govt screwing up again.
Is Carrie Lam this incompetent or this mishap is just a reflection of how HK has been too accommodating to western people and very rich people of extreme privilege and wealth, it is no wonder that there's a lot of disenchanted people in HK that may have been suaded by the most recent riots partly due to the governments inattentiveness, indifference to their plights and miserable conditions. It's also not a fng surprise that some of the protesters were hoodwinked that the answer and only answers to address their miserable conditions was through the uprooting of the existent corrupt government and replace it with a democracy not knowing or realizing the irony of such doe eyed assumptions about the democratic systems around the world that's actually producing extreme chasm and divide of social class. They can and should have looked no further than in the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, and a zillion more countries in Asia, Europe, and Africa. Carrie Lam and the rest of HK leadership must be pushed to shape up or be shipped out failure to deliver the necessary changes to the vast majority of HK.
 

KYli

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Hong Kong is one of the most capitalistic cities in the world. So I would say it is more or less reflect the government deference to the powerful business community and special interests.

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Data from Public Health England (PHE) shows that of the 113 deaths of people under 50, 64 per cent were unvaccinated, while 10 per cent had received one jab and 24 per cent had received both.

Among the 1,076 deaths of people aged over 50, 30 per cent were unvaccinated, 9 per cent had had one dose and 61 per cent were fully-vaccinated.

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That's hilarious. The pot calling the kettle black.
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Nutrient

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You are the perfect example of person who only read headlines, but never read the article... please read the article, not just the headline!
Then it's even more obvious that you didn't read the article, or misunderstood it, because I was responding to your summary of it.


Also to clarify, my official position is: "After China achieves 100% vaccination rate with boosters, it should stop sporadic city lockdowns because it will hurt manufacturing in long-run, and be satisfied with 'Zero Deaths' rather than 'Zero Infections'. " Currently, I am fully 100% supportive of China's (current) sporadic lockdowns as children don't have vaccines, no booster is available, vaccination rate is still low, and Olympics hasn't even finished yet. Please do not misconstrue my arguments.
It is good to be clear. I disagree with your assertion that the lockdowns would impair the manufacturing, but I appreciate the clarification of your position.

My opinion is that the lockdowns actually help in manufacturing by removing the fear of Covid from the workers. The actual facts support me: China's manufacturing is booming, far above the weak economies that have botched their anti-Covid policies. You might answer that the harm will happen in the long run. But I see no evidence of that. Why should China change a major policy with little evidence for change -- beyond your gut feelings?
 

KYli

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Anyone who advocates for full reopening for China should take a look. Things have deteriorated so badly in Israel that its last hope is a booster shot to temporary contain the virus. As for anyone who thinks Pfizer or mRNA is very effective should now recognize mRNA isn't that superior.
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1. Immunity from the vaccine dips over time.​

2. The delta variant broke through the vaccine's waning protection.​

3. If you get infected, being vaccinated helps.​

4. Israel's high vaccination rate isn't high enough.​

5. Vaccinations are key, but they are not enough.​

6. Booster shots offer more protection​

Looming question: Will we need COVID-19 vaccines every several months? We don't know.​

The bad news,
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, is that half of Israel's seriously ill patients who are currently hospitalized were fully vaccinated at least five months ago. Most of them are over 60 years old and have comorbidities. The seriously ill patients who are unvaccinated are mostly young, healthy people whose condition deteriorated quickly.


Israel's daily average number of infections has nearly doubled in the past two weeks and has increased around tenfold since mid-July, approaching the numbers during Israel's peak in the winter. Deaths increased from five in June to at least 248 so far this month. Health officials say that currently 600 seriously ill patients are hospitalized, and they warn they cannot handle more than 1,000 serious infections at the same time.


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Skywatcher

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Like the presenter says, unfair and preferential treatment ain't nothing new and part and parcel in any society, but how much of an effort is it really for the HK governing elite to at least make it look like they give a damn, even when everybody knows they don't?
Huh, seems like both sides of the political divide in HK are mad. And they should be.
 
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