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Research in Sri Lanka says that Sinovac Inactivated Vaccine produces similar type Antibodies to that which is acquired through natural infection.
It gives a similar level of protection from death and severe disease as other types of vaccines.

Inactivated Vaccines are safer than Mrna Vaccines which have caused deaths and side effects like Blood clots, strokes, heart inflammation, auto immune diseases etc.

At the end of the day, it is really a choice of what risk you want to take with your long term health in the choice of Vaccine.
But I may be wrong, Mrna Vaccines may turn out to be largely safe after many years of testing.
 
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Research in Sri Lanka says that Sinovac Inactivated Vaccine produces similar type Antibodies to that which is acquired through natural infection.
It gives a similar level of protection from death and severe disease as other types of vaccines.

Inactivated Vaccines are safer than Mrna Vaccines which have caused deaths and side effects like Blood clots, strokes, heart inflammation, auto immune diseases etc.

At the end of the day, it is really a choice of what risk you want to take with your long term health in the choice of Vaccine.
But I may be wrong, Mrna Vaccines may turn out to be largely safe after many years of testing.
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@WTAN Sir I'm not a doctor but I had a friend who is and said MRNA tech is ideal for cancer treatment and China especially Foshan district in Guangdong are frontrunner in that field.
 
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@WTAN Sir I'm not a doctor but I had a friend who is and said MRNA tech is ideal for cancer treatment and China especially Foshan district in Guangdong are frontrunner in that field.
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Yes MRNA Tech is looking promising for treatment of diseases in the future.
It is a new treatment and it is for the first time being trialed on humans for Covid19. Humans are the Guinea Pigs now.
So we dont know what the side effects will be on people down the track.
Of course eventually the technology will improve over time and it should become safer as well.
 
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Here we see an example of difference in pandemic handling causing material difference in supply chain.
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) cites the inferiority (or short-supply) of Vietnamese engineering talent, coupled with difficulty of Chinese engineering talent to visit Vietnam on business visas (due to highly restricted inter-border travel restrictions between Vietnam/China) as the the primary reason for retaining production of 'new products' in China temporarily.

It continues to says Apple still plans 20% of AirPod production to move to Vietnam, and even says "We don't think the Vietnamese government will adopt such strict measures for very long, otherwise it will affect its own economy and its rising manufacturing prowess". The two articles does state that China's supply chain is superior to rest of the world, so it make sense to temporarily retain production there when border travel is so difficult.

TLDR: The article mentions nothing about domestic pandemic handling, but temporary inter-border travel restrictions of Chinese engineering talent to Vietnam and lack of Vietnamese engineering resources for 'new product' developments.
 
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Here's an article with a broader scope that looks at this problem instead of focusing just on Apple:
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Does anyone actually read the article and not just the headline?

The Nikkei article says border/travel restrictions limit Chinese engineers to visit, support, and train local Vietnamese engineer talent on 'new product development', so that's why it's temporarily keeping manufacturing of 'new products' inside China. Vietnam still excels at making 'old products', but 'new products' need Chinese engineering talent because Vietnamese lack engineering resources according to the article. Apple still continues to plan 20% manufacturing of AirPods in Vietnam according to the Nikkei article.

"[Vietnam's] engineering workforce is still far from adequate," the person said. "With all the travel restrictions, it's only feasible to make products in Vietnam that are already in mass production elsewhere, rather than starting production of upcoming products from scratch in the country." .......
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"The border control has been tightened in the past few months. We could not easily dispatch our Chinese engineers to support our production projects for Amazon in northern Vietnam, so the company has been bringing in fully vaccinated Taiwanese engineers from China," said a senior manager of an Amazon supplier.
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It says nothing about "superior pandemic handling"... the article even says it's a temporary situation since Vietnamese gov't doesn't want to lockdown forever and damage it's economy and manufacturing prowess. So if you are implying China should continue forever lockdowns, this Nikkei article suggests the exact opposite.

"We noticed there are some impacts on production lines and a slowdown in shifting of production capacity due to COVID-19 resurgence and government measures. However, we don't think the Vietnamese government will adopt such strict measures for very long, otherwise it will affect its own economy and its rising manufacturing prowess," Hsu said.
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So in conclusion, China is still vulnerable to firms shifting production away due to geopolitical tensions, with or without superior pandemic handling.
 
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