Look at them. So busy with conspiracy theory.
Meanwhile, how about some real news in India:Mass graves along the banks of the Ganges.
Lesson not learnt?
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Meanwhile, how about some real news in India:Mass graves along the banks of the Ganges.
Lesson not learnt?
Thanks! you found 1 "chinese not evil" out of 1000 "chinese evil" western news article
If the Pan Green knows what is good for them then they'd allow the vaccines/medical gear because "major humanitarian disaster" is one of the provisions for reunification by force.
What makes DPP government so utterly stupid is that their response is totally farcical. Their whole playbook seems to be the old KMT playbook from 1960's or 70's.
I don't like to peddle in "what-ifs" too much, but I don't think Ma Ying-Jeou would be so brainless. Even if KMT decided it was too much to directly support state-owned company like Sinopharm, I don't think they would be so stubborn to at least allow the China-produced BioNTech vaccine. I mean, if he was willing to commit to limited FTA with mainland, this is just peanuts. Instead DPP sees an opportunity to blame mainland authorities for "blocking" vaccine.
This is some sort of sick joke if you think about it. Taiwan's "Iron brother" the USA keeps talking about "rules-based international order", well what is the rule? The rule is that BioNTech signed the contract with Fosun that gives them the right to sell the Vaccine in Greater China (PRC, HK, Macau, TW). This is why I hate that phrase...
I'm usually quite respectful of Donald McNeil Jr. He had always tried to be as objective as possible. He was one of the few voices in the US MSM defending China in 2020. But this is very saddening and disappointing to read. This is unfortunately terrible work from a journalist who is usually so much better than this.
I've read through his article, just because its him who wrote it. His article does not conclude with any certainty that the virus was leaked from the WIV. But he had raised several questions about Dr Shi Zheng-li's (the "Bat Woman") work. Special questions about her works on RaBtCoV/4991 sample. Then going into speculations about "what-if this?", "what if that?". And "Oh look! The Chinese govt always covers up!" BS.
Sorry Donald McNeil, I believe you have caved into some powerful pressure from your government. The same powerful pressure that had wavered Dr Fauci, Dr Tedros, and other scientists.
If you want to be objective. Don't just look at Dr. Shi and the WIV, while ignoring the other astonishing facts happening around the world. We need answers as to why the virus had been tested to appear in sewers in Spain in March 2019. We need answers as to why the virus had appeared in Italy in September 2019. We need to know why the virus had already appeared in significant sample sizes in the USA in November 2019. Looking only at just Dr Shi and Wuhan alone will not get us to the bottom of the virus origins. The silence about Covid-19 cases predating the Wuhan outbreak in 2019 is astonishing. If those cases outside of China are wrong, then prove it with an actual investigation! Why the silence?
I have seen this kind of madness before. The Iraqi WMD case, MH17 shootdown, Syrian Chemical weapons attack, Novichok in the UK, and the Tiananmen Tank Man. All arguments against these Western lies were either silenced or dismissed, until proven beyond reasonable doubt that they were wrong. The Iraqi WMD lie was only exposed after soldiers found no WMDs in Iraqi bunkers. The Tiananmen Tank Man was disproven decades later after an anonymous source leaked the full video. I am certain that we are going down the same path with this "evil Dr Shi and her WIV" theory.
Objectivity would necessitate that Covid-19 origins investigation be done globally. But I'm more than convinced that the Western governments will never allow any investigations on their soil. Whatever investigations that would happen would mostly just be limited to Wuhan. They'll push and perhaps bribe the investigators to 'find something' in Wuhan. I am predicting that this is gonna happen soon. But, I do sincerely hope that these scientists grow some pairs of balls and prove me wrong.
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Both Sinopharm and Sinovac have been authorized to be used for people over 65 in China. However, due to the fact that there are not much of community spread of covid-19 in China, the elderly is not the first priority. Since the vaccination rate has been picking up in China, more and more cities and provinces have included elderly for vaccination. As for efficacy rate, it varies but you can't just choose a not peer review study to jump to a conclusion.
BioNTech vaccine isn't even China-produced at the moment. Fosun is just a distributor. Taiwan went behind Fosun back and wanted to sign a deal directly with BioNTech and Pfizer which is against the term of contract. I don't understand why BioNTech would entertain such discussion in the first place. It is just bizarre.
Welcome to the forum Rob20. You may have noticed a frosty reception to your arrival here. There have been a few trolls recently so bear that in mind.
The article you posted was in Portuguese so I can't understand exactly what they are claiming. The study they cite seems to come from Butantan, the largest vaccine manufacturer in Brazil. I've not found the original study they published so am unable to comment much about it.
The clinical trial in Chile is the only one I'm aware of that subdivided age groups older than 60 and I believe the effectiveness was 65% for the 80+ age group.
That was before emergence of newer variants though and the effectiveness of any vaccine tends to be poorer in that demographic.
You should not have asked the question before you examine the "evidence" from US. Hasn't the US presented "evidence" of Iraqi WMD in UN? Hasn't the US presented "evidence" of dead Uyghurs who are very much alive in Xingjiang? Hasn't US presented "evidence" of imprisoned Uyghurs who were never born?
Even if the US present "evidence", it must be fabricated. US has a credibility deficit, period. They have to rebuild their credit before they can be taken seriously again.
The problem with mixing is that who is being responsible if there is a side effect especially if its severe. I am sure the vaccine producers won't be responsible.