szbd
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well the reality is, the flights with these planes domestic is far more than the number of flights international. That means, most of their flying hours are limited inside china. simply because china has soooo many people.
COMAC C929 Widebody Airliner
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I think the idea that @TerraN_EmpirE is getting at is that CATIC does not yet have global parts distribution network, nor would they have a network of qualified MRO facilities.
Recently this was a fairly “big” announcement of a parts warehouse in UAE
Japan has 747s flying on their domestic routes from Tokyo because there isn't enough airport capacity in Tokyo
RUSNANO has developed a wear-resistant coating for aircraft engines of new Russian aircraft
22.12.2021The specialists of Plakart, a member of the RUSNANO Group, in less than 5 months developed a wear-resistant coating for the ends of the airfoil of the compressor blades of the PD-35 ultra-high thrust engine, the press service of the Group reported.
The new coating is planned to be used on promising wide-body aircraft - long-haul passenger and heavy transport aircraft, including the Russian-Chinese CR929 airliner.
The creation of a new PD-35 aircraft engine is being implemented within the framework of the state program "Development of the Aviation Industry". It is based on breakthrough technologies, innovative solutions and new materials.
As part of supporting the implementation of a key project in the field of domestic civil aircraft construction, the order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation Mikhail Mishustin allocated more than 44.6 billion rubles.
AO Plakart is a portfolio company of AO RUSNANO, established in 2010 to implement a project to create a network of innovation centers for the production of nanocoatings using the methods of thermal spraying and surfacing. Plakart performs work both in its own workshops located in the Moscow region, Perm, Tyumen, Nizhny Novgorod, and Naberezhnye Chelny, and at the site of installation and operation of equipment - throughout Russia and the CIS.
In Ulyanovsk, the production of a prototype for the wing box of the CR929 aircraft continues
15.02.2022Aerodynamic model of the wing with SFDMS CR929 cyberlets in T-128 wind tunnel / Photo © TsAGI
JSC "AeroComposite-Ulyanovsk" has placed another tender for the manufacture and supply of metal parts and assembly units for the wing box prototype of the CR929 wide-body long-haul aircraft. This was posted on the official electronic trading platform of the Rostec consortium.
As stated in the terms of the tender, design and technological documentation, as well as technical specifications will be sent to the contractor upon request after the conclusion of an agreement on non-disclosure of confidential information. The list of parts that the contractor must make includes fittings, brackets and corners. The initial cost of the work is 23,689,412 rubles.
ShFDMS CR929 is being developed by a joint Russian-Chinese venture CRAIC, which includes from the Russian side the United Aircraft Corporation, from the Chinese COMAC. As Anatoly Gaydansky, First Deputy General Director of Irkut Corporation, said in November 2020, AeroComposite is almost 100% loaded in two main projects. “This is the manufacture of the wing and center section for the MS-21 aircraft, this is the current operational project, serial production has been launched. The second is the creation of a wing for the Russian-Chinese CR929 aircraft. Prototypes are being made and technological processes are being developed,” Anatoly Gaidansky said.
In 2018, the chief designer of the liner from the Russian side, Maxim Litvinov, in an interview with Vzlyot magazine, said that a manufacturing plant for the manufacture of the composite wing of the CR929 aircraft could be built in the Primorsky Territory near Vladivostok. In his opinion, for the manufacture of the wing, it is necessary to use the capacities of Aerocomposite JSC, which already produces a composite wing for the MS-21 aircraft in Ulyanovsk. However, given that the size of the CR929 wing is much larger, and significant volumes of its serial production are planned, the developers consider it expedient to launch a new production.
“The wing is very large, it practically does not fit in the cargo compartment of the An-124, and we most likely will not be able to deliver it by air. The development of a Russian analogue of the Airbus Beluga, given the huge costs and limited demand, seems unlikely. Therefore, the following options are currently being considered: either the delivery of individual components for assembly in Shanghai, or the construction of a new plant closer to the ocean and the delivery of finished wings by sea, ”Litvinov said then.
Or they build a plant to make the wings in Shanghai
In Ulyanovsk, the production of a prototype for the wing box of the CR929 aircraft continues
15.02.2022
Aerodynamic model of the wing with SFDMS CR929 cyberlets in T-128 wind tunnel / Photo © TsAGI
JSC "AeroComposite-Ulyanovsk" has placed another tender for the manufacture and supply of metal parts and assembly units for the wing box prototype of the CR929 wide-body long-haul aircraft. This was posted on the official electronic trading platform of the Rostec consortium.
As stated in the terms of the tender, design and technological documentation, as well as technical specifications will be sent to the contractor upon request after the conclusion of an agreement on non-disclosure of confidential information. The list of parts that the contractor must make includes fittings, brackets and corners. The initial cost of the work is 23,689,412 rubles.
ShFDMS CR929 is being developed by a joint Russian-Chinese venture CRAIC, which includes from the Russian side the United Aircraft Corporation, from the Chinese COMAC. As Anatoly Gaydansky, First Deputy General Director of Irkut Corporation, said in November 2020, AeroComposite is almost 100% loaded in two main projects. “This is the manufacture of the wing and center section for the MS-21 aircraft, this is the current operational project, serial production has been launched. The second is the creation of a wing for the Russian-Chinese CR929 aircraft. Prototypes are being made and technological processes are being developed,” Anatoly Gaidansky said.
In 2018, the chief designer of the liner from the Russian side, Maxim Litvinov, in an interview with Vzlyot magazine, said that a manufacturing plant for the manufacture of the composite wing of the CR929 aircraft could be built in the Primorsky Territory near Vladivostok. In his opinion, for the manufacture of the wing, it is necessary to use the capacities of Aerocomposite JSC, which already produces a composite wing for the MS-21 aircraft in Ulyanovsk. However, given that the size of the CR929 wing is much larger, and significant volumes of its serial production are planned, the developers consider it expedient to launch a new production.
“The wing is very large, it practically does not fit in the cargo compartment of the An-124, and we most likely will not be able to deliver it by air. The development of a Russian analogue of the Airbus Beluga, given the huge costs and limited demand, seems unlikely. Therefore, the following options are currently being considered: either the delivery of individual components for assembly in Shanghai, or the construction of a new plant closer to the ocean and the delivery of finished wings by sea, ”Litvinov said then.
The wings appear to be produced in Russia. The final assembly of the aircraft takes place in Shanghai. The total R&D center is in Russia.Or they build a plant to make the wings in Shanghai
How much confidence would you guys give to the success of this project? I kind of thought it would mostly be stalled considering the state of Russian defence programs in the past few years. Though their civilian sector looks a bit better. The MC-21 seems decent, even using composite wings
The PD-35 engine seems to be the most worrying, considering how ambitious it is. It seems like the Russian government is serious though, allocating hundreds of millions for it and I do hope it succeeds so there will be a non-western option for long haul planes.
The PD-35 engine seems to be the most worrying, considering how ambitious it is. It seems like the Russian government is serious though, allocating hundreds of millions for it and I do hope it succeeds so there will be a non-western option for long haul planes.
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I am looking forward to the future success of the Sino-Ruso joint civilian aircraft venture because there's a market out there hoping to break the duopoly between Boeing and Airbus.