szbd
Junior Member
There are so many 777-300 and A350 flying within china
COMAC C929 Widebody Airliner
- Thread starter Iron Man
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Not for purely domestic Chinese flights.
These planes are designed for longer distances, which means foreign acceptance is required
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
both A320 and B737 were designed pre open China there modernized iterations were designed for general aviation and
modern narrows like the MAX and Neos are capable of both Transatlantic and Transpacific flights with limitations based on configuration, model, passenger load and origin destination. These still leads to a preference to larger liners like the A321XLR and B757.
Generally builds of airliners optimize performance around the base line middle configuration with shorter and longer versions suffering the trade offs. Some will farther trade passenger cargo capacity for additional fuel tanks to increase range.
I don’t see the politics as the problem even in the old Cold War Soviet liners were accepted in international flights. The question will be support. If Ryan air gets a fleet of 919s will they be able to maintain that fleet? If Air Mexico buys 929s can they be fixed without shipping back to China? That’s Comac’s biggest point of question. If they can solve that then they can actually stand as a rival to the Duopoly. If they can’t then they end up in the same state as the Soviet liners. Isolated to markets that already had a heavy bias to the combloc
I dont think that this is such a big problem. Nowadays when you expand into the world, you also build regional maintenance/repair facilities which can fix these airplanes without having to send them back to China
So you would have North/South America, Europe, Middle East, ASEAN facilities which would each serve their regional airplanes
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
It’s a huge problem. It is if you intend export. If they was want to operate in China and sell to Chinese airlines that’s one thing. But with the C919 Comac is on the verge of an intercontinental airliner. Heck the CBJ1 iteration of the ARJ21 is the verge of an international buisness jet. They need support. We should be hearing left and right about dealings to open or contract support services.
The airline I worked for has its A380s serviced in Manila, and our competitor had their old Jumbos (which they've since retired) and their current fleet of 787s serviced in Xiamen.
Make of that what you will.
Make of that what you will.
Cuba is operating 4 (CR-929 equivalent) Il-96 and waiting for delivery of 3. So purely from financial perspective, they can afford it. The bottom line is that all countries need aircraft in this class, so they will be able to afford it one way or the other, at least CR-929 is a choice without threat like Boeing and Airbus.
Range is not the only consideration in a Country the size of China, the number of seats in one flight is more important between major hubs like Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou.
The distance between Tokyo and Beijing is the same as Guangzhou to Beijing, shorter than Beijing to Urumqi. I have travelled between Tokyo and Beijing on Boeing 747, so I don't think distance is relevant to CR-929's usage within China. After all, China is a continent, so big so that even within its border business is on the scale of international.
As of foreign acceptance, I don't know why this is so much of an issue which has been thoroughly discussed in both 919 and 929 threads.
People care because of a trophy collection mentality.