COMAC C919

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Three prototypes from the same angle.

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taxiya

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AECC last reported the CJ-1000A was going to be certified sometime in 2023. They released a promotional video reiterating that the CJ-1000A is "Coming Soon". I still say 2023 sounds like Bullsh@t.

AECC CJ-1000A (promo video)
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0:45 >> better than ICAO CAEP/6 environmental standard, 50% emissions standard
0:47 >> takeoff thrust 12913-13608kgF
0:48 >> ICAO Chapter 14 noise, 10.8 EPNdB
0:54 >> resin-based composite blades

The latest features of the CJ-1000A looks like it jumped several generations in 1 shot in only a few years. How is that even possible?
Simple, just make the initial spec much lower than what AECC was able to, then you get the feeling of surprising jump.

If you pay attention, you can see that very often Chinese developers will state a minimum (lowest) specification while having a good chance of exceeding it. In other words, Chinese are very conservatives in making promises or expectations unlike the westerners who aims high and reaches low.

For this very reason, if AECC said 2023 there is a fair chance.
 

pbd456

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Simple, just make the initial spec much lower than what AECC was able to, then you get the feeling of surprising jump.

If you pay attention, you can see that very often Chinese developers will state a minimum (lowest) specification while having a good chance of exceeding it. In other words, Chinese are very conservatives in making promises or expectations unlike the westerners who aims high and reaches low.

For this very reason, if AECC said 2023 there is a fair chance.
How long does it take for a new engine to mount on a plane till finished all the testing and get certified? I read that CJ1000a is going to be mounted on the Russian plane for testing and I don't know when it will start.
 

weig2000

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gadgetcool5

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Was just thinking about this today. It's still kind of a weird date, since it's the second to last day of the third quarter and two days till national holiday, but at least it's not December 30.

With this milestone, the C919 is 14 years from project inception (2008) to certification date, breaking the record of the ARJ21 which was 12 years from project inception (2002) to certification date (2014). The ARJ21 in turn was the longest civil aircraft development cycle since the failed Concorde of the 1970s. After certification it took two and a half more years to go into service. At this rate, we can expect C919 to go into service sometime in late 2025 or early 2026, provided the US is still selling them engines and equipment at that point. We hope it's faster, but that's their track record so far.

But at least they made it this far. Congratulations China.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Was just thinking about this today.
Oh I'm sure you have. Takes and lot of time and effort to cope with this, as we're about to see:
It's still kind of a weird date, since it's the second to last day of the third quarter and two days till national holiday, but at least it's not December 30.

With this milestone, the C919 is 14 years from project inception (2008) to certification date, breaking the record of the ARJ21 which was 12 years from project inception (2002) to certification date (2014). The ARJ21 in turn was the longest civil aircraft development cycle since the failed Concorde of the 1970s. After certification it took two and a half more years to go into service. At this rate, we can expect C919 to go into service sometime in late 2025 or early 2026, provided the US is still selling them engines and equipment at that point. We hope it's faster, but that's their track record so far.
There there, get it all out. Reason and negotiate with yourself for why this is no big deal and how China hasn't accomplished anything worthwhile. Whine and toil in anguish like Ebineezer Scrooge...
But at least they made it this far. Congratulations China.
...before finally paying the 2 pence he owes.
 
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Andy1974

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Was just thinking about this today. It's still kind of a weird date, since it's the second to last day of the third quarter and two days till national holiday, but at least it's not December 30.

With this milestone, the C919 is 14 years from project inception (2008) to certification date, breaking the record of the ARJ21 which was 12 years from project inception (2002) to certification date (2014). The ARJ21 in turn was the longest civil aircraft development cycle since the failed Concorde of the 1970s. After certification it took two and a half more years to go into service. At this rate, we can expect C919 to go into service sometime in late 2025 or early 2026, provided the US is still selling them engines and equipment at that point. We hope it's faster, but that's their track record so far.

But at least they made it this far. Congratulations China.
I really like the fact China doesn’t make announcements or wait for anniversaries. If it’s ready then go, don’t wait for anniversary.
 

sunnymaxi

Captain
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Was just thinking about this today. It's still kind of a weird date, since it's the second to last day of the third quarter and two days till national holiday, but at least it's not December 30.

With this milestone, the C919 is 14 years from project inception (2008) to certification date, breaking the record of the ARJ21 which was 12 years from project inception (2002) to certification date (2014). The ARJ21 in turn was the longest civil aircraft development cycle since the failed Concorde of the 1970s. After certification it took two and a half more years to go into service. At this rate, we can expect C919 to go into service sometime in late 2025 or early 2026, provided the US is still selling them engines and equipment at that point. We hope it's faster, but that's their track record so far.

But at least they made it this far. Congratulations China.
cannot compare C919 with ARJ-21 process. first step always tough. build infrastructure , supply chain and collaboration of multiple industries include local suppliers. this was the reason why ARJ-21 project took so much time.

experience from ARJ-21 and C919 will help CR929 project. as managing director of COMAC said, we are now capable to design and build any type of commercial aircraft. thanks to C919. we gained much valuable experience.

COMAC will deliver all six C919 to China Eastern airliner by the end of this year. it means aircrafts will enter in service earlier.

lets see.
 
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