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Sure. And this is based on what evidence?
Back in the real world, SMEE's best system is a prototype qualifed for the 90nm node, 8 generations behind the state-of-the-art (5nm). AFAIK, it has not recorded any sales of that tool. SMEE struggles to produce even photolithography steppers.
China's saving grace is that Moore's law is coming to an end, and there's possibly only 10 more years of advancements left before it becomes unprofitable to push the technology any further.
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Video of 65 nm process node DUV dry lithography machine being delivered to a corporate customer for 3D packaging and integration purposes with a picture of the actual instrument being forklifted into the fab.
That is evidence in favor of 90 nm likely referring to physical resolution and not process node. However it must be noted that 65 nm and 90 nm are closely related and typically 90 nm uses 248 nm KrF or even mercury lamp rather than ArF, so 65 nm process node is the EXPECTED performance of an ArF instrument.
Where is your evidence for any of this? 90 nm has no sales but we have video of 65 nm getting forklifted into a fab? Ok I guess we can accept that 90 nm has no sales known to you, but 65 nm has sales.
WTAN has already said multiple times about the 28nm DUV machine being already shipped to select customers and is now in trial production in those customers. In the following months the yield will gradually increase as the processes are optimised.
AFAIK H1/2022 full production of chips will start with the 28nm DUV machine.
AFAIK H1/2022 full production of chips will start with the 28nm DUV machine.
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yeahh with 14nm chips mass produced in 2022 and 7nm in early 2023
All it shows of this alleged SMEE system is a wooden box. But then they prop up the video with photos of ASML systems, because otherwise it would be 5 seconds long.
If this is really true, then it shouldn't be difficult to find an official statement made by SMEE. Otherwise, how do we know this isn't yet another prototype?
To put this in perspective, ASML shipped its first EUV tools (demo tools) to customers way back in 2006:
But it wasn't until 2018 that EUV matured enough for high volume manufacturing.
Yooo I heard there's no evidence for 90 nm...
There's only evidence for 65 nm being delivered to customers, literally, with a forklift.
Industry reporters:
Sina Finance (of Sina Weibo):
Then you have actual insiders talking about 28 nm process. Hmmm...
There's only evidence for 65 nm being delivered to customers, literally, with a forklift.
Industry reporters:
Sina Finance (of Sina Weibo):
Then you have actual insiders talking about 28 nm process. Hmmm...
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