Chinese semiconductor industry
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This is a significant step toward a computing eco system. Next building blocks may include ASICs and commercial applications. Do remember that the Intel ISA, a.k.a. x86, is not the best ISA since the beginning of the computing age. Other superior ISAs such as (DEC/Comapq/HPQ) Alpha ISA, HP PA-RISC and Sun SPARC were all defeated in the commercial markets. Those are all lessons learned for a new ISA like LoongISA. Nonetheless, this is a great accomplishment. Not many countries can even try their own ISA. Salute to all who made this happen.
@4Runner Its was always in the background, they always have a domestic alternative available even though its not leading edge. China had committed itself to international trade rules so they need to temper its expectation believing that the US will not destroy the institution that they help created. Now with the sanction China had been given a carte blanche to act and can't be accused of violating WTO rules, some may say its a foolish thing to depend on others but China had benefited greatly from globalization. Now those domestic option will be resurrected , getting funding and resources.
WTO doesn't fly anymore. The US undermined it. Time for China to decouple from the US technlogically. China can keep buying its agricultural products though, they are useful..
If you really want china to start decoupling from US how about china start the move first and not the US. Because what I see right now is that china is waiting for US's move. So start ordering Lenovo, Inspur, Sugon, Huawei, Xiaomi, Chuwei to stop buying Intel CPU or AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU or AMD GPU for their commercial servers and PC/Laptop next year. Start using Kunping CPU or Loongson CPU next year. How many Lenovo Laptop or Huawei Laptop that were using Loongson CPU in China? Also start ordering Xiaomi and BBK to abandon Qualcomm next year and start using CPU made by Unisoc. Will you?
I agree with you. China is pathetic on decoupling. Its companies are in large still worhsipping US tech. They are borderline useless.
However I thinks this is changing now. In case you missed it, in the new 5year plan, "national security" was a top priority and was mentioned everywhere
However I have my doubts that they will move fast. China is huge ship and it turns ever slowly with private interests and the bureaucratic machine slowing it down. It is changing course, but it will need some time.
The US, on the other hand, is taking concrete steps to decouple while China is fiddling its thumbs
Patience.
Decoupling is a slow process that happens over time, with economic decoupling that is always the case. It will take time to design out all American components.
Huawei has mostly done that in their cell phones and base stations.
Political decoupling can be done at a snap of the fingers.
This is where political decoupling and economic decoupling do not match, they are two different processes.
All it seems like what is happening is China decoupling at its own pace.
For the Americans, the government want a decoupling, corporations do not.
You said its time for china to decouple from US technology. It seems to suggest that china should start the decoupling ASAP. Unless you wrote it like this "china should try to decouple from US technology gradually"
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