Interesting here is what the leading semi industrialist think of China effort to achieve self sufficiency. This discussion more or less confirm the problem that we have been discussing in this forum
Interesting article, thanks. Note that it's dated April 11, 2019, over two years ago.
Empyrean Software is the leading EDA supplier based in China. Dong noted that the EDA industry is 60 years old, while Empyrean is only 10 years old this year
Empyrean is already ten years old? That is better than I expected.
Xia believes that Chinese industry should not automatically support domestic EDA tools simply because they are from China.
Xia Yanqiu is from HiSilicon (Huawei). Of course he would prefer to continue using US tools, which his people know. However, he said that two years ago. What does he think of the recent sanctions, which might include the use of EDA tools from American vendors? Actually, I'm not sure if those tools are included in the sanctions. But even if they aren't, China should prepare for the possibility that US EDA tools will be banned. Americans are playing very dirty.
Switching to Chinese EDA tools will cost some training time, but as the people being trained are engineers, the learning shouldn't take long.
“The chip is the basis of communication. Although 14 chip manufacturers are currently certified by the ZigBee Alliance worldwide, only one Chinese company is certified,” said Weimin
That was said two years ago.
It is unrealistic to expect China can become competitive in EDA in three years. Domestic EDA manufacturers must aim at 10 years and 20 years to do it.
This was not a quote. The (presumably American) author is saying this. I doubt that he is right that 10 or 20 more years are required to make a Chinese EDA tool. ***
“I think my product is ready, but no customers want to help me, no customer can tell me the disadvantages of my products.”
This is precisely what worried me upthread, that Chinese companies might starve local suppliers, preferring to give their money to American companies instead. However, that was two years ago.
That said, Chinese companies are becoming competitive. Cao said, “When our equipment is good enough, they will remove it from the list of restricted exports. For example, the Bureau of Industry and Security of the United States Department of Commerce went to AMEC, and then went to SMIC the next day, where they saw our equipment running smoothly in SMIC’s fab. They removed the equipment from the embargo list six months later.” Cao said, “The reason is that China has been able to produce enough equipment and good equipment, so it’s no longer meaningful to continue to limit security in the United States.” [Emphasis added]
Note that AMEC was already selling stuff to SMIC two years ago.
*** Why I doubt that 10 or 20 more years will be needed for China to develop EDA tools. For one thing, as noted earlier, Empyrean is already 10 years old. For another, an EDA tool doesn't have to do everything in order to be very useful; if it only does the most important jobs, that will be good enough, for now.