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Oldschool

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All this is handled by SpaceX and that it seems they are making progress with their Starship program. Expect that when that is completed the US gov and Us mil will start throwing trucks full of money outside Elon house to start doing all these things.

And there is one thing that China Militarybshould fear from Starship. That is if the US Military contract SpaceX to accomplish theirs Rods of God program. If they can do the Rods of God program then thats game over for China
SpaceX program cost more in US than in China. If US doesn't have decisive edge at
a techh they will lose.

China already tested rod of God, they put parachute at the end so that damn thing wouldn't impact the ground with that speed.

US is better at create new technology but China is better at application of technology
 

voyager1

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I can assure that the starship is cheaper than everything China has now. From what I know, for now they are spending probably 25 mln or less per a starship testbed.

Elon Musk is famously known for mass producing and lowering manufacturing costs across all products. So starship is dirt cheap and there are no problems with cash. Elon himself is like the 1st or 2nd richest person in the world.

And why the US doesn't have decisive tech?
Starship is a revolution on rocket launchers and it is also cutting edge regarding mass production, flight control and their new first ever raptor engine.

China doesn't have anything similar to starship and it is big trouble. And for Rods they are not supposed to be parachuted down, they are supposed to enter from the space by already having orbital velocity. So at any place on the Earth, the US military will be able to strike anywhere in under 15 minutes and sometimes maybe 10 to 5 minutes
 

Oldschool

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I can assure that the starship is cheaper than everything China has now. From what I know, for now they are spending probably 25 mln or less per a starship testbed.

Elon Musk is famously known for mass producing and lowering manufacturing costs across all products. So starship is dirt cheap and there are no problems with cash. Elon himself is like the 1st or 2nd richest person in the world.

And why the US doesn't have decisive tech?
Starship is a revolution on rocket launchers and it is also cutting edge regarding mass production, flight control and their new first ever raptor engine.

China doesn't have anything similar to starship and it is big trouble. And for Rods they are not supposed to be parachuted down, they are supposed to enter from the space by already having orbital velocity. So at any place on the Earth, the US military will be able to strike anywhere in under 15 minutes and sometimes maybe 10 to 5 minutes
I am talking about moon base and manufacturing there, not just a launch vehicle. Frankly, I do not know much about starship. But a reusable orbiter and a booster. How's different than Chinese one?

Elon objective is to colonize Mars but Chinese and Russian moonspace and processing plant is different objective

Rod of God is no more fearful than nuke just doesn't pollute environment
 

voyager1

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I am talking about moon base and manufacturing there, not just a launch vehicle. Frankly, I do not know much about starship. But a reusable orbiter and a booster. How's different than Chinese one?
Thebthing is that to do all this you will need a lotbof rocket launches. And if you are spending 1 billion per launch and it will take 10-15 years to do this then the US will do it 10-20 times cheaper and in 4 years if they choose the Starship, thats why spaces is related to this.

It is not only a resuable orbiter but also a reusable booster, thats why it is so revolutionary, no need to throw away parts of the rocket anymore. And secondly it is a huge rocket which can bring 100 tns to low earth orbit, so with each Rod weighting 10 rods they can put unlimited Rods in the space.

And finally, the starship orbiter when it goes to space it can be refuelled from other starship orbiters which is very important because this way they can build huge moon bases very fast due to full reusability and mass production
 

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Comment: I guess Xi Jinping will start placing Chinese tech companies on the entity blacklist soon.
 

manqiangrexue

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Why China IS taking so long to make EUV. I guess is harder to make semiconductor equipment than to make hydrogen bomb. Despite government pouring billions of billion still they can't do anything about it. SMIC which china's greatest hope can't even pass 12nm and even 14nm far below standard, now lowkey to get USA approval for ASML equipment. This is because of the lack of talent not money. Money can't buy everything I guess:confused:.
Go back to sleep, junior; this is EUV lithography development, arguably the most complicated tech in the world, not you waiting at a restaurant for your pizza order to come through. The main problem with China taking "so long" is that you don't know what EUV is or you'd know how long to expect it to take and see that China is blowing past every expectation. How long do you think EUV takes? LOL Even without updates from WTAN telling us about the progress at breakneck speed, this would be such a short time, most countries wouldn't have found a direction to move in yet. SMIC is one of China's hopes; China bets nothing on any one entity and SMIC has been literally coasting down the nm scale from last year. SMIC was something like 42nm or 28nm a year ago; now it's on 12/14nm, with plans for 7nm this year. And this is China just getting the momentum starting. Nobody in history has moved this fast. If you want more talent than China, you'd need your own planet.
 
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HybridHypothesis

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Not all tech is created equal. If there is anything you should have learned during the past few years, it is that hardware is more difficult than software. I don't see Alibaba doing anything on the hardware side of things, so if they get knocked around a bit, is it a real problem?
 

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