Did they use Cymer's EUV light source?
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Did they use Cymer's EUV light source?
No, Cymer only sells to ASML.
They just give up, at that time I think the deal they have with Intel was over and ASML just hammer them with their immersion systems, outselling them South Korea, Taiwan and mainland China, looks like the Japanese goverment looks like didn't step up to solve the issue.
I think they manage to built a prototype in 2008.
After investing FORTY BILLIONS in the US, mostly because political pressure from US and Taiwanese politicians, ladies and gentlemen , TSMC is only going to receive a paltry 200 million dollars of the Chip act money, SAMSUNG with half of TSMC investment is going to recieve 6 TIMES what TSMC is going to recieve. On top of that by receiving this paltry 200 million dollars TSMC will have to curtail their investment in China, leaving the company more weak against their Mainland archrival (SMIC) and Now HuaHong that is planning to launch a 14nm process node next year.
Considering that this Arizona fab have to compete with their Taiwanese facilities in price, if they cannot get those prices low down then I have my doubts that US companies are going to move their production from Taiwan to the US, given that the most advance nodes is going to be still in Taiwan and making chips for the US military cannot justify a 40 billion dollar investment. To reduce cost TSMC would have to create a mini Taiwan in the middle of the desert, hiring US worker is not going to cut it and more that Intel and Micron a building their own fabs and they pay more. So if TSMC Arizona fail the political fallout in that island is going be brutal.
Considering that this Arizona fab have to compete with their Taiwanese facilities in price, if they cannot get those prices low down then I have my doubts that US companies are going to move their production from Taiwan to the US, given that the most advance nodes is going to be still in Taiwan and making chips for the US military cannot justify a 40 billion dollar investment. To reduce cost TSMC would have to create a mini Taiwan in the middle of the desert, hiring US worker is not going to cut it and more that Intel and Micron a building their own fabs and they pay more. So if TSMC Arizona fail the political fallout in that island is going be brutal.
It's a bit premature to claim victory..... we don't know if these numbers are correct. None of the CHIPS Act incentives have been distributed yet (), with except of measly $35m to BAE systems for making military chips (), we don't know where the 99.99% of $52.7 billion will go to. The Dept. of Commerce has said it's still undergoing complex negotiations over the funding details. ()
Also, regarding TSMC Arizona costs, my understanding was that Apple has guaranteed (majority?) orders from TSMC Arizona plant, even though it's technology is inferior and quantities produced is rather limited. () This confirms early speculation by Asianometry that Apple has guaranteed orders for TSMC Arizona fab. Apple is the King maker in this situation. I agree with you though, it will likely remain limited production since it will not match the performance/cost efficiency of Taiwanese fabs enough for Apple to go "all-in", esp. since quantity is low and chips are older tech.
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Only 39 billion are going to fab makers, Raymondo already announced that next year they are going to give the money, I would have expected that TSMC would AT LEAST initially receive 3 billion in subsidies next year with at least 5 billion in the future,remember they are expecting 15 billion of those 39 billion, the fact they are just going to receive 200 million is just crazy.
I think the problems is not the technology but price, Apple is not expecting Taiwanese prices but they also not expecting that the price would be too high.
The 39 billion was announced by the US government, 15 billion was what TSMC asked, the table according the source in semiwiki come from "good jobs first", guys that track government subsidies and Raymondo already said they will give the money next year, so is already distributed.
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