Sir testing meaning using SSRF in Shanghai?
There will be 2 parallel production line, from what I know SMIC Shanghai will use ASML while SMIC Beijing, Tianjin and Shenzhen will use domestic.
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what? you still need tin droplets generator with LPP right? but who else could be developing tin droplets generator other than SIOM?Yes from our very own @olalavn, EUVL with LPPwhat pique my interest is that the LPP will produced 400 watts the same output with the latest ASML HI NA EUVL.
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Registered MemberThe article "Research on 100 kHz Repetition Frequency Tin Droplet Target" submitted by the institute's team introduces the team's research progress on the tin droplet generator, a core component of the laser plasma extreme ultraviolet (LPP-EUV) lithography light source.
EUV光刻光源核心部件研究获新进展，上光所锡液滴发生器达到100kHz工作频率
Exactly. SMIC achieving 7nm is nothing special. Actually it means they are unprofitable and will soon go out of business and all the investment is wasted 八(＾□＾*)!!! Even Intel was not profitable without EUV: clearly, an American company cannot be inferior to a Chinese company, so it means SMIC is completely uncompetitive and unsustainable
.But under 7nm? Yes, anything under 7nm is made by God. It is so complex and mysterious your simple minds will never be able to understand it.
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Found in one of @tphuang 's threads on Twitter
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Did they forgot that TSMC got to 7, 5nm and i think 3nm with help from Huawei and Apple reserving capacity helping out increasing wafer success rate if im not mistaken. Intel only had their own people, Samsung also mostly had their own people.Exactly. SMIC is achieving 7nm is nothing special. Actually it means they are unprofitable and will soon go out of business and all the investment is wasted 八(＾□＾*)!!! Even Intel was not profitable without EUV: an American company cannot be inferior to a Chinese company, so it means SMIC is completely uncompetitive and unsustainable
But under 7nm? Yes, anything under 7nm is made by God.
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Found in one of @tphaung 's threads on Twitter
Understandable. Truth is too traumatic.Exactly. SMIC is achieving 7nm is nothing special. Actually it means they are unprofitable and will soon go out of business and all the investment is wasted 八(＾□＾*)!!! Even Intel was not profitable without EUV: clearly, an American company cannot be inferior to a Chinese company, so it means SMIC is completely uncompetitive and unsustainable
But under 7nm? Yes, anything under 7nm is made by God. It is so complex and mysterious your simple minds will never be able to develop it.
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Found in one of @tphuang 's threads on Twitter
Buy SMIC... their stock has been increasing for more than a week now
TSMC had 50% gross profit margin, Qualcomm has 50% gross profit margin and I am sure it will actually have a higher margin for the sale to Huawei because it is the only supplier due to sanction waivers.
Baacially Huawei is paying a lot of money above the cost for last year mate50.
If SMIC and Huawei just accept a lower margin for a lower yield, it would easily be profitable
Unless the west think all business that dot have 50% are losing business.
Even if it is not profitable (not likely), it deny revenue to companies that are hostile to china, and it builds up human capital in China that can't be measured by profit.
Baacially Huawei is paying a lot of money above the cost for last year mate50.
If SMIC and Huawei just accept a lower margin for a lower yield, it would easily be profitable
Unless the west think all business that dot have 50% are losing business.
Even if it is not profitable (not likely), it deny revenue to companies that are hostile to china, and it builds up human capital in China that can't be measured by profit.
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