I think we should enjoy this while we can because as China semiconductor industry grows more independent they could become more like black boxes.
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Even now employees in certain semiconductor companies need to sign confidential agreement.
Yeah but SMEE is blacklisted too. And more to the point, the whole reason why SMEE is important is that supposedly that them being blacklisted doesn't matter. If SMEE is dependent on Western supplies to operate then it's useless anyways. If you have to hide in the shadows just to live, scurrying around in the dark like a scared mouse afraid of being discovered, then you aren't independent. We will know China's industry has become independent when they are free to publish their achievements for the whole world to see the US can't do shit about it other than declare war on China.
Btw, if China's semi industry being hidden is so important, people posting here every day Chinese reports about them is hurting them. This thread is OSINT central and has tons of natsec types trolling it looking for your next post so they know who to ban tomorrow.
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we should enjoy the Chinese chip boom from 2024...semiconductor technology gap no longer makes it difficult for semiconductor manufacturing equipment companies.. basically they have fulfilled their mission universal chips
I don't like Chinese companies keeping secrets... they need to let the world know that China's technology isn't inferior to western technology.
Personally I don't think they should censor themselves because the US insecurity complex, but companies obfuscating their entire supply chain network allows them not to reveal weakness that could be used against them until they strengthen those. Maybe they are De-Americanized "again, which is the main goal" but still have some suppliers from Asia and Europe that they want to protect.
An example is that a lot Chinese tools companies do not publish costumers who are verifying the equipment and software they are selling and public bidding represent only a part of the equipment sold in China.
I have been thinking about the idea of nuking this entire thread but again people here don't publish nothing that is not in the public Chinese domain: patents, research papers, companies announcements, public financial information, research institute news, Chinese public forums and Chinese semiconductor news publications. Pretty much all public information.
But after seeing the horrible research publications of these overpaid US think tanks stooges, is very probably that things we publish here, we, a bunch of enthusiasts in a military forum, looks like state secret in comparation.
chinese aircraft engines are not transparent. Does it make them inferior？
It is plenty transparent and known that the WS10-C now can power every class of China's fourth and fifth generation fighter jets.
Public does not mean easily findable. I wouldnt be surprised if think tankers are taking the stuff posted here (which would take them hours and days, if not weeks to find themselves) and putting it into Google Translate. That being said they are getting more sophisticated so who knows, maybe this thread has become less useful to them.
this guy is a perfect example of typical western expert.
he don't know how Chinese works. he should have read more about China and their philosophy.
SMEE will never announce DUVi development not even in 2023 as long as they don't satisfy with the product. we have countless examples in past. for example WS-15 first flight official announcement come after 18 months. Chinese are totally different.
SMEE's 28nm DUVi still under testing , evaluation and yet to enter in serial production.
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That news came plenty late after these developments had already not only happened but had been well-established. It shows that China publicizes things with a long lag time.
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