Chinese semiconductor industry
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@olalavn and bro any news on Hisilicon 14nm 3D chiplet which they're planning to introduced next year, from what I know since Huawei Shanghai FAB maybe focusing on 28nm and 22nm auto chip, they may do the packaging using SMIC unfinished 14nm chips? like they did with Kirin 9006c 5nm chip with TSMC.
14nm 3d it is already in trial production... in Huawei Enjoy 50.... test chips will not have an official name.
Of course, the Western press portrays every advancement China makes as "copying". Nevertheless, they have to admit reality even while gritting their teeth.
Perhaps this shows us why the US is now pressuring the Dutch government to ban even DUV exports to China. I speculated that this push by the American government indicates that progress in China is faster than we realised.
@mossen bro there is some truth cause without Liang Mong Song (LMS) a former TSMC employee, SMIC will have a hard time. Now we awaits SMIC 5nm and 3nm, this is Mr LMS baby and fully SMIC project.
I had a discussion with @hvpc and the conclusion is that ASML may restrict the export of NXT 2050i the latest DUVL BUT not NXT 1980i and 2000i to satisfy the Washington DC hawks.
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Unless I’m looking at a different report from you, nowhere does it identify that the chips are of the N+1 node. The report only refers to the chip as 7 nm.
@olalavn Yup so the long wait for the Return of the King had finally happen with Kirin 710A.
Jun 16, 2022 — The Huawei Enjoy 50 runs on the Harmony OS 2.0. The smartphone comes in three storage variants and comes in three different colour options. The ...
I am bit confused here.
I thought "7nm" was the name under which TSMC marketed one of their processes. Referring to the "minimum sized feature".
How on earth can you deduce with what process a chip was made with just by looking at it? The most I would think you could deduce was the chip has power and performance characteristics comparable to a chip produced by a given TSMC process.
How would you see that the process was "copied" from TSMC? And not stolen from say Samsung or Intel? Or a proprietary self developed process based on double pattering using the ASML equipment all fabs pt. are using.
I thought "7nm" was the name under which TSMC marketed one of their processes. Referring to the "minimum sized feature".
How on earth can you deduce with what process a chip was made with just by looking at it? The most I would think you could deduce was the chip has power and performance characteristics comparable to a chip produced by a given TSMC process.
How would you see that the process was "copied" from TSMC? And not stolen from say Samsung or Intel? Or a proprietary self developed process based on double pattering using the ASML equipment all fabs pt. are using.
at least, 2024-2025 high end Kirin chip will return.@olalavn Yup so the long wait for the Return of the King had finally happen with Kirin 710A.
Jun 16, 2022 — The Huawei Enjoy 50 runs on the Harmony OS 2.0. The smartphone comes in three storage variants and comes in three different colour options. The ...
@olalavn yes bro I can see it, KIRIN 810 7nm chip in 2024.
HiSilicon Kirin 810 – an 8-core chipset that was announced on June 21, 2019, and is manufactured using a 7-nanometer process technology.
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