Are you aware how is the bidding process of a contract?
Do you think is like going to buy tomatoes?
All contracts specially for aircraft pass by several layers of contracts, see Rafale bidding in India or Brazil`s F-X.
Jets are ultra expensive, they pass by several legal and political processes.
Russia and China did indeed sign agreements for an initial process to start the sale like India did with France for Rafale or Brazil is doing in F-X.
The first agreement was for the intellectual rights Russia demanded China has to respect if Su-35 is purchase.
see hwat ROSTEC said
Rosoboronexport and the Chinese Defense Ministry signed the preliminary agreement to sell 24 Sukhoi Su-35 fighter planes to China in late December 2012. The agreement provided for start of aircraft deliveries after 2015.
The second agreement has not been signed this will be the actual contract where the sale will materialize.
See what ROSTEC said
China to Receive Assembled Sukhoi Su-35 Fighters
Possible deal valued at an estimated US$ 1.5 billion
However i won`t explain you more since i know you want to play a white noise game.
Russia and China have not signed the final agreement, just a preliminary agreement that will allow basic principles to be established for a final contract to be signed
Now... see who is playing the white noise game. I asked a simple question, you have no answer to it, so you came up accusing me of playing white noise game, which is fine, since that is about the only thing you can do right now.
Plus... nothing in Rosoboronexport say anything about intellecture rights. You are imagining it... or lying through your teeth desperately to bring the audience to your side... like a dirty politician. Look at your own quote,
Rosoboronexport and the Chinese Defense Ministry signed the preliminary agreement to sell 24 Sukhoi Su-35 fighter planes to China in late December 2012. The agreement provided for start of aircraft deliveries after 2015.
Where in that senstence mentioned anything about intellecture rights? Or are you going to come back and retort saying that I don't understand Russian?
India didn't sign initial agreement to buy Rafale... they signed agreement to buy Rafale, they wanted Rafale. The Chinese either signed agreement to buy Su-35, or they don't. That is simple business... I do not know why you would want to make it complicated... to bring in more examples, when the Chinese bought the Su-27... did they sign initial agreement first... a couple of years down the road, then they sign full contract to get the delivery going? When the Chinese buy Su-30, did they do the abovementioned? If not, why do they do it now?
Of course you would come in and say you don't know, then I would hope that you keep it to yourself, instead of coming in and stir some flame, then ending at you are not from Rosoboronexport or what, and you don't know. Then insist on others playing games, when what people are doing here is hoping for some straight answers.
First i want you to think i am your friend, not competitor, in life we have to learn to express our thoughts, be humble and learn from others, i am lean on Russian sources simply because they have the other side of many deals and while i have gotten disappointed.
I like Russia any way my step mother is Russian and in my Childhood house 5 Russians live, and i had a few Russian girlfriends, maybe i like too much Russia, but i am also civilized and my parents told me to be human and respectful we can agree to disagree but if we effort we can learn to make us understood Regards Deino
Reading this from your previous post... make me almost wanted to laugh or puke. It is really a weak attempt to make yourself valid to anyone out there. I mean... what does your life story got to do with anything... things like who your step mother yield from, where you live in your childhood and how many Russian girlfriends you have... I mean... that is either off topic or you are desperately wanting people to take your claims seriously because you are the 'expert' in Russian matter.
In that case, my mum came from China, I travel to China 6 to 7 times a year. I have heaps of Chinese girlfriends in the past and although I don't stay in China, I read up intensively in Chinese literature and history. Does that make me an expert in China military and current affair? I don't think so... And I will never resort to that matter to blow out of proportion of my credibility, because I know I don't have much in this forum and is humbly learning from everyone here (including you, yes, you heard right, including you.). But when you start pulling out your soap opera to keep yourself valid... your credibility just go straight down the drain.
