Chinese Internal Politics

Jiang ZeminFanboy said:

Looks like after break up of alliance between KMT and TPP we will have a guaranteed another four or five years (I don't remember how many years) of DPP.

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Yeah we can comfortably congratulate DPP in advance and AIP as well on a successful sabotage of KMT and TPP agreement.

Really a tragic turn of events because all surveys show that if opposition had one candidate, Lai and DPP would have been defeated and convincingly so.

Now we can expect more provocative diplomatic visits, more U.S. troops deployed to rebel province, more deliveries of U.S. weapons etc.

Stierlitz said:

Yeah we can comfortably congratulate DPP in advance and AIP as well on a successful sabotage of KMT and TPP agreement.

Really a tragic turn of events because all surveys show that if opposition had one candidate, Lai and DPP would have been defeated and convincingly so.

Now we can expect more provocative diplomatic visits, more U.S. troops deployed to rebel province, more deliveries of U.S. weapons etc.

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US sending troops will be the end of peace and the end of those US troops as well.

Last time US conducted illegal visits with rebel leaders, China normalized overflying patrols and sending warships right up to the beaches.

Next time that happens, assuming China doesn't simply intercept, provincial lockdown or even bombing of select targets would probably happen.

Biscuits said:

US sending troops will be the end of peace and the end of those US troops as well.

Last time US conducted illegal visits with rebel leaders, China normalized overflying patrols and sending warships right up to the beaches.

Next time that happens, assuming China doesn't simply intercept, provincial lockdown or even bombing of select targets would probably happen.

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About 200 U.S. troops are already stationed there though.

Stierlitz said:

Yeah we can comfortably congratulate DPP in advance and AIP as well on a successful sabotage of KMT and TPP agreement.

Really a tragic turn of events because all surveys show that if opposition had one candidate, Lai and DPP would have been defeated and convincingly so.

Now we can expect more provocative diplomatic visits, more U.S. troops deployed to rebel province, more deliveries of U.S. weapons etc.

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DPP is an incompetent party that sacrifices the well being of the citizens to serve US interests.

DPP has celebrated things like New Southbound policy and replacing exporting agriculture goods to China with America, but overall influence in SEA is still low (Thailand and Indonesia are courting PRC investment), and exports overall have decreased and economy has contracted.


US will make more promises of helping the economies of like-minded democracies, but there is not much they can do.

10 Days to go to the last ROC presidential election. Let's give all our energy to agent Lai and hope he delivers

coolgod said:

10 Days to go to the last ROC presidential election. Let's give all our energy to agent Lai and hope he delivers

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Well, he admits he is the Dog
Probably apply to the US to be colony like Philippines was before

Good to see our brethrens across the strait share the genes to make spicy memes.

Pick the right frogs.

coolgod said:

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Pick the right frogs.

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I'm curious what future the DPP holds

It is always said that KMT is the dying party, supported only by the old, but DPP is basically 10-15 years behind. DPP has been in power most of the time (barring the Ma Ying Jeou years) since elections began building their own base of cronyism and corruption (charges usually leveled at the KMT).

The reality is simple, you cannot improve the economy by alienating China. This is akin to Canada trying to isolate itself from America, irrational. TPP understands this, more and more young people are catching on.

The other conundrum. If a Taiwanese values democracy, then you actually don't want to get too close to the US. In another thread I mentioned Pelosi. What good did her visit do? How did she help anyone? Her visit created fear, uncertainty, and negative economic impact. People did not vote you in do this.

I once saw in a pro DPP media outlet that most greens consider TPP a blue party in disguise. I think they are just burying their heads in the sand.

edit: More apt, a frog deeper in the well...

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I'm curious what future the DPP holds

It is always said that KMT is the dying party, supported only by the old, but DPP is basically 10-15 years behind. DPP has been in power most of the time (barring the Ma Ying Jeou years) since elections began building their own base of cronyism and corruption (charges usually leveled at the KMT).

The reality is simple, you cannot improve the economy by alienating China. This is akin to Canada trying to isolate itself from America, irrational. TPP understands this, more and more young people are catching on.

The other conundrum. If a Taiwanese values democracy, then you actually don't want to get too close to the US. In another thread I mentioned Pelosi. What good did her visit do? How did she help anyone? Her visit created fear, uncertainty, and negative economic impact. People did not vote you in do this.

I once saw in a pro DPP media outlet that most greens consider TPP a blue party in disguise. I think they are just burying their heads in the sand.

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Lai Ching‑te and DPP isn't fully aligned though, Lai is super pro-independence, as opposed to the "moderate" Tsai. My dream is that DPP gets a big victory, US puts boots on the ground in the middle east and Lai formally declares independence. Yellens says the US can afford two wars simultaneously, how about three?